Did mayweather ever face a guy in his prime like Jacobs?

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  • billeau2
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    #71
    Originally posted by satiev1
    You could say judah. Although I don't think zab was in his prime anymore after the kosta ko. Corralles was much slower and destroyed by the weight cut.
    Not really because Judah was hardly "prime." Thats the knock on Floyd...He never faced a fellow great prime for prime, African American slickster or other wise. Its a matter of opinion... to some of us its a big deal to others not so much. Corrales was excellent but hardly an ATG.

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      #72
      Originally posted by NaijaD
      That's the point Judah wasn't special (he could have been though, he definitely had enough talent to potentially be) but he was clearly better than Jacobs. If Golovkin beat someone with Judah's speed and boxing ability then clowns like you would draw extrapolations as to how he'd also be able to beat RJJ..... scratch that! You already do that.
      he wasnt clearly better than jacobs. whys jacobs a bum cause he lost to pirog 7 years ago??? he just gave many peoples pound for pound number 1 a hard fight, and hes been demolishing everyone since that loss.

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        #73
        Originally posted by larryxxx.
        I dont mean any harm man but Judah is a 2 division 6 time champion and former lineal champ at 147
        fair enough bro, just never really seen judah as some top fighter, not sure he'd be in my top 10 mayweather wins.

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          #74
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey
          Sorry, but Judah wasn't special. He was exposed by Tszyu, and basically quit versus Khan, a guy who most contributors dump on here relentlessly. Whenever it was time for him to step up he got shut down. He looked lackluster. Cory Spinks and Danny Garcia shut him down, he lost to Clottey and Malignaggi who can't crack an egg. He had a flash of promise early on, but didn't have the heart or stamina to capitalize on it.
          Look at the names you mentioned, bear in mind that Judah was well past it when he fought Khan and Garcia.

          But other than Pirog, who else has Jacobs faced that are as good as Clottey, Khan, Garcia, Spinks, Cotto and Tszyu??? If Jacobs fought that level of competition there's a good chance he'd have a bunch of L's too. You can't point to Judah's losses when Jacobs hasn't fought anywhere near the same level of opposition.

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            #75
            Originally posted by bigdramashow
            he wasnt clearly better than jacobs. whys jacobs a bum cause he lost to pirog 7 years ago??? he just gave many peoples pound for pound number 1 a hard fight, and hes been demolishing everyone since that loss.
            When have I ever referred to Jacobs as a bum? Between us I'm not the one who said he has no chance and will go early against Golovkin.

            Jacobs is a good B/B+ guy but fools need to stop acting like Floyd was fortunate to not share the ring with someone like him. It's ****ing asinine!

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              #76
              Originally posted by NaijaD
              Look at the names you mentioned, bear in mind that Judah was well past it when he fought Khan and Garcia.

              But other than Pirog, who else has Jacobs faced that are as good as Clottey, Khan, Garcia, Spinks, Cotto and Tszyu??? If Jacobs fought that level of competition there's a good chance he'd have a bunch of L's too. You can't point to Judah's losses when Jacobs hasn't fought anywhere near the same level of opposition.
              he knocked out peter quillin in one and beat the latin snake twice....

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                #77
                Originally posted by NaijaD
                When have I ever referred to Jacobs as a bum? Between us I'm not the one who said he has no chance and will go early against Golovkin.

                Jacobs is a good B/B+ guy but fools need to stop acting like Floyd was fortunate to not share the ring with someone like him. It's ****ing asinine!
                oh yeah im not claiming the latter, just saying i see jacobs as a better win than judah, just my opinion....

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by bigdramashow
                  he wasnt clearly better than jacobs. whys jacobs a bum cause he lost to pirog 7 years ago??? he just gave many peoples pound for pound number 1 a hard fight, and hes been demolishing everyone since that loss.
                  Judah lost to baldomir a c level fighter. Jacobs lost to pirog and he says judah is better.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by NaijaD
                    They are made by people that started watching the sport around the time Golovkin emerged. If you watched Judah in the early/mid 2000s I don't see how you could rate Jacobs as a better fighter. Jacobs is solid but nothing special but hey there's got to be an explanation for the fan boys as to why Golovkin didn't impress. It's obvious Jacobs is an ATG, we just couldn't see it.
                    tHE JUDAH THAT LOST TO BALDOMIR? I know judah is a good fighter but I'm not sure he's better than jacobs. If floyd fought an undefeated judah then yes. But he didn't.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by satiev1
                      You could say judah. Although I don't think zab was in his prime anymore after the kosta ko. Corralles was much slower and destroyed by the weight cut.
                      how the hell was Judah not prime?? cause he got ko'd?? hell i guess Jacobs wasnt either then right?

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