Did mayweather ever face a guy in his prime like Jacobs?
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Judah gave the clear p4p#1 fighter /hof and atg in Floyd a hell of a fight..what are ya'll on about?Comment
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and Jacobs was ko'd by PirogSorry, but Judah wasn't special. He was exposed by Tszyu, and basically quit versus Khan, a guy who most contributors dump on here relentlessly. Whenever it was time for him to step up he got shut down. He looked lackluster. Cory Spinks and Danny Garcia shut him down, he lost to Clottey and Malignaggi who can't crack an egg. He had a flash of promise early on, but didn't have the heart or stamina to capitalize on it.Comment
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cause Floyd adjusted, Judah was giving him hell early on..Floyd is just that good..no need to make these outrageous claims to make GGG opponents look better then they are..Jacobs was a good win lets just leave it at that...Comment
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I suggest you guys watch the ESNews interview with Alex Ariza, who was Corrales strength and conditioning coach. Corrales had the fever all week, couldn't make weight, so Ariza tried to "starve the fever" out of him. He called it a hail mary attempt and the worst mistake of his career, when he was inexperienced. He said Corrales was dead man walking. That win is always hyped by Floyd fans but it's the most worthless, overrated win of any boxing career ever. He was dead man walking before Floyd even put a glove on him.
As for Judah? "Four round fighter" as Angel Garcia said. Coming off a KO. Had Jacobs reach but not his size, power, or stamina. Or chin, actually, at least the chin Jacobs had with all that weight. Yes he had a nice uppercut but that was it power wise. He was faster than Jacobs but he was a welterweight so that's to be expected. That's really his only advantage over Jacobs. The Jacobs GGG fought is way better.
Ortiz is not in the same league as Jacobs are you kidding? Jacobs has been KO'd once 8 years ago the week his grandmother died by an elite fighter. Ortiz has been KO'd many times by fighters much less talented than Pirog. In any case even if Ortiz was that good, Floyd never fought him. I mean, they boxed for a couple rounds, then Floyd sucker punched the chinny quitter, and the chinny quitter quit. It wasn't a legitimate fight so we'll never know how it would have actually ended up legitimately.
Castillo? Well Castillo beat Floyd the first time in a much more decisive way than some claim Jacobs beat GGG, so that's #1, and #2, he had already been KO'd four times before fighting Floyd. And he didn't have the speed, reach, or one-punch power of Jacobs.
So hell no Floyd never fought anyone this good in their prime. Are you kidding me? Floyd ducked and cherry picked his whole career, then bragged about it, but some people still buy the fantasy. I mean just look at the best wins people bring up and they are all delusions. "Oh how amazing he was against Corrales. That was the young Floyd! The Pretty Boy Floyd! We all know Money May was a joke, but that guy, that was a real fighter! That guy really dominated! Just look at that Corrales fight!"
And as always with Floyd it turns out to be total bull****. He just relies on people not having good enough memories, or having not even followed boxing back then. Just like people discrediting Jacobs as an opponent because he was KO'd once against an elite fighter, but then they bring up Floyd's wins over Castillo as some sort of accomplishment, even though Castillo had been KO'd four times and Floyd still lost to him the first time.
This is why boxing is a joke. GGG's resume is supposed to be a joke, and he was supposedly "exposed" against Jacobs, but Floyd Mayweather loses a fight to someone who has been KO'd four times already, and he's held as this pinnacle of greatness, the unsolvable puzzle who was never "exposed." In reality he has at least two performances where he performed worse, and against worse opposition, than GGG did against Jacobs, those performances being Castillo I and Maidana I. Sure Floyd did better the second time but those guys aren't half as talented as Jacobs, so it shouldn't have come to that in the first place.
Floyd's resumé is actually so bad, I challenge anyone to tell me who he beat in their prime, in their natural weight class, as good as David Lemieux, let alone Danny Jacobs. It's so funny to hear people criticize GGG's resumé when he now has the two best wins of either his or Floyd's entire career, in Lemieux and Jacobs. Obviously Floyd has bigger names like Canelo (drained at 152), Cotto (already beaten to a pulp by two separate guys, still gave Floyd a tough fight), Pacquiao (old and Floyd still barely stunk out a low activity decision), but those two wins by GGG when they happened, against opponents in their prime at their very best, are better than anything Floyd has ever done.
I mean, you can argue 37 year old Pacquiao would still beat a fighter like David Lemieux in the same weight class, but are you sure? It's been ages since Pacquiao took out a fast combination bomb thrower like that. He hasn't even fought anyone like that since Cotto lol. And as for Canelo, there are plenty of people who think Lemieux beats a fully hydrated Canelo at 160, so him against a drained Canelo that Floyd fought would not even be a contest. The only other guy is Cotto at 154 after Pacquiao and Margarito, but before Roach trained him, so basically the low point of his career. He might have beaten a Lemieux, or he might not have... would have been a hell of a fight if they were both the same size. But he definitely wouldn't have beaten Jacobs. We already saw him lose wide to a lesser version in Austin Trout who doesn't even have power like Jacobs.
So yeah it's a great question OP. But the answer is Floyd's entire resumé is smoke and mirrors, illusion, and GGG, just by virtue of being willing to fight the best, already has the best wins between the two, despite the fact GGG was ducked by the top names for most of his career, which is the exact opposite of Floyd's situation. Everyone wanted a fight with Floyd. He had what GGG could only dream of: choice of any top opponents he wanted. But he always chose the easiest one, at the right time. GGG isn't like that, so when the top opponents finally came calling, he was actually willing to fight them right away, at their best, unlike Floyd was ever willing to do. So once the opportunity finally came and GGG won, he already had the best win of either of their careers.
Because he was actually willing to fight in those circumstances. Floyd never, ever was. Smoke and mirrors baby. Smoke and mirrors.Comment
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I suggest you guys watch the ESNews interview with Alex Ariza, who was Corrales strength and conditioning coach. Corrales had the fever all week, couldn't make weight, so Ariza tried to "starve the fever" out of him. He called it a hail mary attempt and the worst mistake of his career, when he was inexperienced. He said Corrales was dead man walking. That win is always hyped by Floyd fans but it's the most worthless, overrated win of any boxing career ever. He was dead man walking before Floyd even put a glove on him.
As for Judah? "Four round fighter" as Angel Garcia said. Coming off a KO. Had Jacobs reach but not his size, power, or stamina. Or chin, actually, at least the chin Jacobs had with all that weight. Yes he had a nice uppercut but that was it power wise. He was faster than Jacobs but he was a welterweight so that's to be expected. That's really his only advantage over Jacobs. The Jacobs GGG fought is way better.
Ortiz is not in the same league as Jacobs are you kidding? Jacobs has been KO'd once 8 years ago the week his grandmother died by an elite fighter. Ortiz has been KO'd many times by fighters much less talented than Pirog. In any case even if Ortiz was that good, Floyd never fought him. I mean, they boxed for a couple rounds, then Floyd sucker punched the chinny quitter, and the chinny quitter quit. It wasn't a legitimate fight so we'll never know how it would have actually ended up legitimately.
Castillo? Well Castillo beat Floyd the first time in a much more decisive way than some claim Jacobs beat GGG, so that's #1, and #2, he had already been KO'd four times before fighting Floyd. And he didn't have the speed, reach, or one-punch power of Jacobs.
So hell no Floyd never fought anyone this good in their prime. Are you kidding me? Floyd ducked and cherry picked his whole career, then bragged about it, but some people still buy the fantasy. I mean just look at the best wins people bring up and they are all delusions. "Oh how amazing he was against Corrales. That was the young Floyd! The Pretty Boy Floyd! We all know Money May was a joke, but that guy, that was a real fighter! That guy really dominated! Just look at that Corrales fight!"
And as always with Floyd it turns out to be total bull****. He just relies on people not having good enough memories, or having not even followed boxing back then. Just like people discrediting Jacobs as an opponent because he was KO'd once against an elite fighter, but then they bring up Floyd's wins over Castillo as some sort of accomplishment, even though Castillo had been KO'd four times and Floyd still lost to him the first time.
This is why boxing is a joke. GGG's resume is supposed to be a joke, and he was supposedly "exposed" against Jacobs, but Floyd Mayweather loses a fight to someone who has been KO'd four times already, and he's held as this pinnacle of greatness, the unsolvable puzzle who was never "exposed." In reality he has at least two performances where he performed worse, and against worse opposition, than GGG did against Jacobs, those performances being Castillo I and Maidana I. Sure Floyd did better the second time but those guys aren't half as talented as Jacobs, so it shouldn't have come to that in the first place.
Floyd's resumé is actually so bad, I challenge anyone to tell me who he beat in their prime, in their natural weight class, as good as David Lemieux, let alone Danny Jacobs. It's so funny to hear people criticize GGG's resumé when he now has the two best wins of either his or Floyd's entire career, in Lemieux and Jacobs. Obviously Floyd has bigger names like Canelo (drained at 152), Cotto (already beaten to a pulp by two separate guys, still gave Floyd a tough fight), Pacquiao (old and Floyd still barely stunk out a low activity decision), but those two wins by GGG when they happened, against opponents in their prime at their very best, are better than anything Floyd has ever done.
I mean, you can argue 37 year old Pacquiao would still beat a fighter like David Lemieux in the same weight class, but are you sure? It's been ages since Pacquiao took out a fast combination bomb thrower like that. He hasn't even fought anyone like that since Cotto lol. And as for Canelo, there are plenty of people who think Lemieux beats a fully hydrated Canelo at 160, so him against a drained Canelo that Floyd fought would not even be a contest. The only other guy is Cotto at 154 after Pacquiao and Margarito, but before Roach trained him, so basically the low point of his career. He might have beaten a Lemieux, or he might not have... would have been a hell of a fight if they were both the same size. But he definitely wouldn't have beaten Jacobs. We already saw him lose wide to a lesser version in Austin Trout who doesn't even have power like Jacobs.
So yeah it's a great question OP. But the answer is Floyd's entire resumé is smoke and mirrors, illusion, and GGG, just by virtue of being willing to fight the best, already has the best wins between the two, despite the fact GGG was ducked by the top names for most of his career, which is the exact opposite of Floyd's situation. Everyone wanted a fight with Floyd. He had what GGG could only dream of: choice of any top opponents he wanted. But he always chose the easiest one, at the right time. GGG isn't like that, so when the top opponents finally came calling, he was actually willing to fight them right away, at their best, unlike Floyd was ever willing to do. So once the opportunity finally came and GGG won, he already had the best win of either of their careers.
Because he was actually willing to fight in those circumstances. Floyd never, ever was. Smoke and mirrors baby. Smoke and mirrors.
of course of course to save face after the fight ariza went into full turd mode............come up with another trollup
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