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  • Redd Foxx
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    #71
    Originally posted by kafkod
    That's the point I'm making. Canelo is not a PPV draw like Floyd, who could sell 500K + against anyone.
    I'll agree with you there. Floyd's drawing power was incredible. The guy learned how to get buys from fans, as well as the people who wanted to see him lose.

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    • HarvardBlue
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      #72
      It sounds like he's guessing it did "about" 170K. Either way the numbers aren't great but that's the nature of boxing today. It should have got better numbers but if everyone was expecting a massacre why bother watching?

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      • Bronx2245
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        #73
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        Golovkin is likely worth 20%

        how the hell could they offer him 15mil ??????

        what if that fight only sells 600-700k ?
        I just read that Oscar is re-doing his offer based on the GGG PPV numbers! That's not a good look for GGG! Hondsight is 20/20!

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          #74
          Originally posted by Redd Foxx
          Probably the same reason you put your bench press numbers in your sig....
          Yeah MY benchpress numbers, not anyone else's numbers. Which is exactly my point. Why care about what OTHER PEOPLE are making when you arent getting a single dollar of that money?

          Pathetic to see grown men arguing about someone else's paycheck on the internet. Get your own money instead you minimum wage live with your mom losers!

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          • Chuckguy
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            #75
            Originally posted by larry GGG
            How in the hell can you say what everyone who bought it wanted to see?
            The same way you ball wash floyds numbers forgetting the names he fought against that enabled him to have such big numbers.

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              #76
              I can't speak for other countries, but in America you need a hero vs. a villain and/or good guy vs. bad guy and/or David vs. Goliath type of match up to sell a PPV. I don't care how good the fighters may or may not be, if you don't have an angle or drama outside of the ring to attract causal fans, you won't have huge sales.
              Just look at the history of the sport in America and you'll see the highest grossing fights all had one of these types of angles.
              Ali, FMJ, & Tyson were all considered the bad guy. The Majority of America despised these men, not for what they did in the ring but what the did and or said outside of the ring.
              I really hate to bring ethnicity into this discussion, but Majority America hates a Blackman that talks a ton of trash and backs it up in the ring (Ali, FMJ). With Tyson, many of Majority America viewed him as utter trash and despised everything he did outside of the ring (good or bad).
              So when you matched these guys against those that Majority America viewed as good guys, humble guys, or hero's, Majority America was all in because they felt the loud mouth or thug would get the beating they deserved.
              How Promoters market these fights plays a huge part in how much revenue will be generated.
              Really, just look at the history of the sport in America and the highest grossing fights.

              Jack Johnson vs. any White man
              Ali vs. Floyd Patterson, Joe Frazier, George Forman
              FMJ vs. ODLH, Manny Pac, Canelo
              Tyson vs. Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield
              Hell, look at Tommy Hearns vs. SRL. SRL was the good guy and Hearns was the villain. How much money was generated for that fight.

              Kovalev vs. Ward, Jacobs vs. GGG, both lacked trash talking. Not just regular trash talking, but over the top demeaning trash talking. Its so much more to selling a fight than just the fight.
              Last edited by HAY-B; 03-24-2017, 09:19 PM.

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              • Chuckguy
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                #77
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                I'm glad it didn't totally bomb, but I don't get why the people who mocked Canelo's numbers against an unknown opponent (which were WAY bigger than Golovkin Jacobs) are proudly flaunting this. Pretty embarrassing double standard.
                When you are the supposed face of boxnibg and the cash cow and have the numbers cantnelo had that's nothing to brag about. This fight was bought by hard core fans not casuals

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Sp0rty Cr@ig
                  Yeah MY benchpress numbers, not anyone else's numbers. Which is exactly my point. Why care about what OTHER PEOPLE are making when you arent getting a single dollar of that money?

                  Pathetic to see grown men arguing about someone else's paycheck on the internet. Get your own money instead you minimum wage live with your mom losers!
                  Well, actually it does kind of matter to a certain point. Their paychecks give an indication of the health of the sport.

                  If professional boxers aren't getting paid, if PPV numbers are dropping low, if no one attends fights, if no money's coming in at all, that spells a big problem for the sport.

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                  • Redd Foxx
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    When you are the supposed face of boxnibg and the cash cow and have the numbers cantnelo had that's nothing to brag about. This fight was bought by hard core fans not casuals
                    Again, this goofy "1 GG buy = 2 Canelo buys because my hero is greater than yours" argument is something children do. If you want me to think your mind works on that level, carry on I guess...

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                    • Chuckguy
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                      Again, this goofy "1 GG buy = 2 Canelo buys because my hero is greater than yours" argument is something children do. If you want me to think your mind works on that level, carry on I guess...
                      Dude your logic is flawed cantnelo is a bigger name by far and Jacobs is just a little more known than smith. Cantnelo should have done 500k the way Oscar and Floyd did. Ggg isn't the bigger draw and his fanboys can keep thinking that

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