Comments Thread For: Mikey Garcia: No Credit, Lomachenko Doing What I Did Years Ago!

[LoveWisdomTruth]

Loma beat Salido. Loma got robbed. There should be established and independent body of 5 judges established to give their decision on controversial decisions. Too many boxers are getting robbed by crooked judges.

[bluzi]

Loma beat Salido. Loma got robbed. There should be established and independent body of 5 judges established to give their decision on controversial decisions. Too many boxers are getting robbed by crooked judges.

I always thought that like in other games now, where they use television to determine close decisions (goal line in soccer , nba uses TV, NFL , Tennis) you should try to leverage it into boxing somehow , the main issue is that its almost impossible to use and act upon so fast after the fight is over , but for example deducting a point on an illegal blow should be reviewed by a judge on ring side while the fight goes on and if it is found incorrect you just cancel the point deduction , regarding scoring a close fight your suggestion is not bad , but the implications are weird will you revert the decision ?? or just say its a "draw" or NC ? what happens to the belts ? do they still trade hands ?
tldr - i would like camera usage for point deduction and DQ decisions , i dont know if a post fight scoring is something that can work ...... but i would love to reduce human error variance as much as possible in any sport.

[bluepete]

Lomachenko and Garcia are both 29 years old. Garcia is two months older.

What's age got to do with it? The stage of your career is nothing to do with your age. If I fight a world champ I fight 2 and you do in fight 20 your more experienced. Simple.

[bluepete]

You know what that sounds like??? EXCUSES!!!

The DUDE had over 350 amateur fights with only 1 loss. How the F are you NOT ready??? No amount of crying or making up excuses is going to get that 0 back.

Amateur and pro are different games. That's why so many good amateurs don't make good pros. Take a top 400metre runner and see how good he is in the 1500.Nobodies crying. Other dudes have more amateur fights than him and still don't face a good champion until they've had pro seasoning.Your going to be better after 20 pro fights than 2.Its basic common sense and the way boxing history shows it works.

[badass316]

Hopefully this fight gets made, it would be one of a fight. And hopefully it gets a good amount of exposure because more people need to see just how good Lomachenko is. He's only had a handful of fights, but he's already shown glimpses of being a transcendent fighter.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Mikey is a real good fighter, but Lomachenko is special.

I can't fully recall, but did Mikey not dominate Salido early and then take an easy way out after a headbutt when Salido started to make it a hard fight? I'm sure he bailed when it got a bit tough.

Lomachenko dealt with one of the worst nights I've ever seen from a ref. Salido headbutted him constantly and hit him below the belt at least 30+ times and the ref did nothing. Even then, it was very close and he almost stopped him in the 12th.

[Derranged]

Lomachenko should've been deducted numerous points for excessive clinching. even the HBO commentary said so. Lawrence Cole let them both bend the rules. and Loma didn't really come along until the last 2-3 rounds. he lost.

Clinching is legal up until a point. Low blows aren't. Apples and oranges.

[therealpugilist]

yeah, he is doing what you did years ago but he is doing it with less than 10 professional fights.

dude had far more amatuer fights and is one of the greatest of all time....turned pro as a mature grown man. Its impressive the amount of fights and good fighters he has fought in so few fights

but he was well prepared....its not like dwight muhammad qawi winning the title in less than 20 fights, other fighters had little am experience and few pro fights and won titles..


kudos to Loma, i also see where mikey is coming from, which i why i consider mikey a top p4p guy as well. he beat a couple of Loma's best wins, first and also has a win over the man who beat Loma....3 weight titlist as well.

mikey is the truth. glad he is back

[therealpugilist]

Mikey is a real good fighter, but Lomachenko is special.

I can't fully recall, but did Mikey not dominate Salido early and then take an easy way out after a headbutt when Salido started to make it a hard fight? I'm sure he bailed when it got a bit tough.

Lomachenko dealt with one of the worst nights I've ever seen from a ref. Salido headbutted him constantly and hit him below the belt at least 30+ times and the ref did nothing. Even then, it was very close and he almost stopped him in the 12th.

other fighters have overcome similar situations

special fighters find a way to win in rough situations

floyd mayweather vs maidana........ Willie Pep vs saddler (suffered thumbing, headbutts low blows and elbows and found a way to outpoint the roughest hardest punching featherweight of all time)

others have overcome similar situations vs clearly bigger, rougher, dirty opponents..


he has to show us he is special....he has the skills...now he needs to win the right fights

he beats mikey....he is special but honestly i think mikey is poised, hungry and ready to make up for lost time. imo he'd stop loma after being outboxed in stretches but Mikey is an all around fighter and skilled with serious power.

[gmc_rfc_06]

other fighters have overcome similar situations

special fighters find a way to win in rough situations

floyd mayweather vs maidana........ Willie Pep vs saddler (suffered thumbing, headbutts low blows and elbows and found a way to outpoint the roughest hardest punching featherweight of all time)

others have overcome similar situations vs clearly bigger, rougher, dirty opponents..


he has to show us he is special....he has the skills...now he needs to win the right fights

he beats mikey....he is special but honestly i think mikey is poised, hungry and ready to make up for lost time. imo he'd stop loma after being outboxed in stretches but Mikey is an all around fighter and skilled with serious power.

I don't think Mayweather-Maidana is a fair comparison.

Maidana done some dirty work over the fight, sure, but Salido pulled more dirty tricks in single rounds than Maidana did over that whole fight.

I've never seen anything like it: Salido didn't bother making weight, he was headbutting like a mountain goat and he was literally throwing low blows like they were perfectly legal body shots and the ref just stood there. How that fight didn't end in a DQ remains an absolute disgrace.

Lomachenko was genuinely punished for fighting clean. Instead, they rewarded the headbutting, weight cheating, low blow merchant.