Where does Mayweather rank realistically on an all time list?

[-Kev-]

So if I don't show my list on command that means I'm full of it?

Yes. Absolutely, 100%, positively full of ****.

[Santa_]

I'd say top 20-30 but I wouldn't be mad if someone had him in the top 15-25.

I'd have to see their list though.

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Yes. Absolutely, 100%, positively full of ****.

Well you are full of ****. 100% full of **** too. Absolutely

[-Kev-]

Well you are full of ****.

How many pages will your pseudo historian ass go before you make your list? Just go talk on boxing topics which you do know of. It's okay if you don't actually have a list here. I don't either.

[djtmal]

When I was reading this I was thinking of Thurman. Than saw that you mentioned him too. So yeah, if he can also beat Brook, Spence, Pacquiao & Bradley than he would easily be considered an ATG & a Hall of Famer. I know Pacquiao isn't really prime anymore but he's still one of the top 3 welterweights currently. And Bradley is still a top 5 welterweight.

if thurman can get floyd or pac, and beat them, it would do for him what oscar did for floyd and pac...legitimatize (sp) him as a top $ fighter, then it would be easier for him to get the fights made that would solidify the career...but yeah, fight all those guys beat all those guys now, and in this day and age, make the fights, no excuses about testing and that crap... don't let guys walk away from the table with ridiculous demands because you are the a-side..., then try to blame them for refusing the offer...thats corny man just make the fights no excuses

[djtmal]

Canelo????

ok i give you canelo....

hatton, canelo, and corrales...

those represent floyd's best wins against prime, undefeated fighters...

hatton, canelo, corrales.....

let that sink in for a minute....

hatton, canelo, corrales....

now you know i can name some guys who have higher ranking scalps with my eyes closed....

[Larry the boss]

ok i give you canelo....

hatton, canelo, and corrales...

those represent floyd's best wins against prime, undefeated fighters...

hatton, canelo, corrales.....

let that sink in for a minute....

hatton, canelo, corrales....

now you know i can name some guys who have higher ranking scalps with my eyes closed....

I have placed no ranking on Floyd..but those are pretty good scalps man..all 3 were p4p top 10 and world champs

[djtmal]

I have placed no ranking on Floyd..but those are pretty good scalps man..all 3 were p4p top 10 and world champs

no larry those are all great scalps that came at the exact timeline when those fights should have been made...but their atg rankings have to be considered...

i don't have a list either, but just on the mental rolodex, i have floyd right slightly below whitaker and jones, but canelo could be floyd's greatest and can definitely up him...

i'd go as far to say if canelo soundly whips ggg before ggg loses a step, i'd put floyd ahead of at least whitaker, because whitaker wasn't able to beat oscar or trinidad, mainly trinidad, when floyd and pernell were at the same point in their careers, and floyd gets full credit for beating alvarez...alvarez was undefeated, what 30+ wins...yeah...floyd soundly whipped canelo

roy i'd have to mull over because he went to heavy from 154 to grab a belt and came down to 175 to become undisputed again...

[True-Boxing-Fan]

How many pages will your pseudo historian ass go before you make your list? Just go talk on boxing topics which you do know of. It's okay if you don't actually have a list here. I don't either.

Well there you go.

But regardless Floyd is 20th all time no better.

Sorry but that is fact.

[Fists_of_Fury]

i don't have the definitive answer but for starters, whether you stay in one division or jump divisions, definitely clean out the divsion you are in and become undisputed/lineal, fight everybody that would be considered a part of your era in their prime, prime for prime, don't wait guys out until they lose a step or get ko'd, like guys are doing who are the old dogs...line these guys up, fight 'em and beat em one by one...you don't have to go undefeated, but definitely if you lose, avenge the loss decisively, and by the end of the career, not only will you have the names on your resume, but the names will be prime, and hopefully some of the guys you beat, go on to hof or atg careers themselves, so there is little room for debate....leave no f**king stone unturned....oh and when you get to the top, you gonna fight a bum mandatory every here and there, but sure as s**t leave the cherrypicking to an absolute minimum...

i like the work that thurman is putting in...he on the right path...

The right path Thurman has that prime Guerrero and Colazo doe. The masterful Bundu, etc...

You don't get to fight everyone you want when you want to... there are things like promoters, managers, and sanctioning bodies that make that impossible. You also can't tell if a fighter is gonna lose to another if you sign to fight another. We get it you don't like Floyd... but you obviously hold him to a higher standard than others.