What gameplan/boxing style defeats Mayweather?

[Metho_4u]

I know you are not directing that last comment to me, right??! Floyd is ATG and it would take another ATG to beat him.

No, it was just on the topic

[therealpugilist]

Really if you compare the rivals of the others ATG with the list of rivals of Floyd and is all ridiculous.

Honestly Floyd never faced a super elite fighter in his prime.

ODLH in prime had the tools to beat Floyd.

you cant pick your era...thats not the fighters fault so that lame excuse is ridiculous

if he had all the tools to beat him, he would have beat him...the deck was stacked for him...chose the glove size, brand, ring size, division....

its simple and one thing you cant measure is the will to win and the ability to adapt which Floyd had.

the man fought the #1 guy @ 130, 135, 147 and 154 while winning a belt at 140 too...lineal in 4/5 weight classes

So by your logic Joe Louis not an all time great because he never beat a "super" elite heavyweight in their prime? He has 0 wins over all time greats.

Look at Alexis Arguello, Tommy Hearns, Julio Cesar Chavez, all all time greats and beloved, yet Floyd has a better overall resume and beat OVERALL better opposition and didnt lose to lesser fighters like these men did.

[DeLorean]

let's just go off his toughest fights.

Castillo, Oscar, Cotto, Pacquiao & Maidana.

pressure, jabs, body work, angles and cutting off the ring.

sounds like GGG to me.

Aaron Pryor also suffocates Floyd and beats him.
Castillo did beat him and got robbed.
JCC Sr. would mop Floyd too.
Ray Leonard knocks him out.
Maidana should've won the first fight.
he was gonna fight Winky at 154 in 2006 but fight fell apart. he would've lost that.


with current fighters I see Floyd having trouble with Porter, Thurman, Lara, Brook, Spence, Crawford, Peterson, Khan and Pacquiao.

I didn't include Garcia because stylistically he'll be easy work for Floyd. when you throw footwork at Danny he freezes up and does nothing.

at this stage he's 40 years old and past it. I wouldn't give anybody too much credit for beating him now anyway. he's a legend and should enjoy retirement.

[therealpugilist]

Really if you compare the rivals of the others ATG with the list of rivals of Floyd and is all ridiculous.

Honestly Floyd never faced a super elite fighter in his prime.

ODLH in prime had the tools to beat Floyd.

another example.......


Look at Ray Robinsons resume...he is remembered as the greatest welterweight of all time right? name one prime"super elite " he beat there.....

he beat 0....Gavilan wasnt in his prime until the early 50s and growing into 147.......Armstrong was still a good fighter but clearly past his best......Tommy bell who he beat for the title was decent....marty servo was good but not "super elite"

....when you are as good as these men are/were its rare to have a rival in your prime, unless its someone with skills and a clear size advantage Robinson(LaMotta)....Mayweather(Castillo)...other than those guys they outclassed everyone until past their prime, respectively.

[therealpugilist]

let's just go off his toughest fights.

Castillo, Oscar, Cotto, Pacquiao & Maidana.

pressure, jabs, body work, angles and cutting off the ring.

sounds like GGG to me.

Aaron Pryor also suffocates Floyd and beats him.
Castillo did beat him and got robbed.
JCC Sr. would mop Floyd too.
Ray Leonard knocks him out.
Maidana should've won the first fight.
he was gonna fight Winky at 154 in 2006 but fight fell apart. he would've lost that.


with current fighters I see Floyd having trouble with Porter, Thurman, Lara, Brook, Spence, Crawford, Peterson, Khan and Pacquiao.

I didn't include Garcia because stylistically he'll be easy work for Floyd. when you throw footwork at Danny he freezes up and does nothing.

at this stage he's 40 years old and past it. I wouldn't give anybody too much credit for beating him now anyway. he's a legend and should enjoy retirement.

......GGG is a middleweight....floyds best divisions and prime was 130-140.....at 147 he was 30 and slowing down. Small welter to boot.

so basically what youre saying is the opponent needs a clear size advantage to beat floyd?

you obviously dont have any idea how to score fights and its clear you just wanted to see the man take an L

Maidana may have won 4 rounds.....5 if you're generous...hell did he win a round past 5 lol

Castillo vs Mayweather 1 was nip and tuck and was a fight that could have gone either way...thats not a robbery....maybe it was a robbery to you because you hope he lost but worst case scenario wouldve been a draw or Castillo win by a point or two...lol...thats no robbery and that includes giving castillo the swing rounds

Chavez Sr.? the same chavez who got outboxed by frankie randall? the pro Floyd used to bust up as a teenager? the same chavez who got gifts and rescued from losing to Whitaker and Taylor.....no wait, the chavez who almost lost to rocky lockridge and Juan LaPorte? Mayweather boxes his ears off......JLC and JCC do not fight the same, JLC is better with straight shots, longer reach and taller. Prime for prime, JCC gets beat clearly

[richardt]

Did you not see the Castillo or Corley fight. He fought on the inside in middle of the ring plenty of times very well.

The point is inside-fighting in the middle of the ring was not his Forte at 147, fighting off the ropes was his forte from 130-147 so as far as the center of the ring is concerned, Hearns would keep him at bay.

[Xi_]

The point is inside in the middle of the ring was not his Forte at 147, fighting off the ropes was his forte from 130-147 so as far as the center of the ring is concerned, Hearns would keep him at bay.

I know what you said....i saw him fight those guys on the inside in the middle of the ring. Hearns would have to keep him at a distance cause floyd would beat him on the inside.

[richardt]

I know what you said....i saw him fight those guys on the inside in the middle of the ring. Hearns would have to keep him at a distance cause floyd would beat him on the inside.

He would never make it inside nor have the power to make a difference. Hearns style is all wrong in every aspect for Floyd. None of the guys who stunned and wobbled Floyd had anywhere near the power that Hearns had. He was a freak. This fight would end early. Floyd would try to rise from a huge right hand and never regain his feet.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

You aren't ever going to outbox him.. zero chance of outboxing Floyd in a slow paced tactical affair..

I think the only way to beat Floyd is to be extremely active and throw 75-100 punches around, every round.. of course you are going to eat a lot of counters,but you're just going to have to get through it, cuz you ain't outpointing or outboxing him..

Castillo 1
First 6 rounds of maidana 1

Those were the fights that Floyd looked most vulnerable to defeat.. maidana slowed tremendously after 5 rounds of an intense pace. Had he been able to keep the activity level high, he could have beaten Floyd..

In rematches, both Castillo and maidana tried to fight at a much more measured pace and Floyd picked them apart.


Of course it takes a special type of fighter to go 12 rds throwing 75+ punches every round, and having your chin hold up from the counters.

That's why a Floyd-margarito fight would have been so fascinating to watch.. margarito had the chin, heart, stamina to go 12 rounds throwing 75+ punches..


I also think bigger welters/jr middles with long jabs and technical skills could be a downfall for Floyd.. had Oscar been able to keep his jab pumping all night instead of it disappearing for long stretches in the fight, that fight would have been very different... guys like winky and Vernon Forrest could have caused Floyd all sorts of problems because they could keep Floyd out of his punching range with their jabs, and still be able to land some of their own potshots

[JakeTheBoxer]

Many welters from the past beat 147 Floyd IMO. Vernon Forrest, Felix Trinidad, RSL, Duran, even Paul Williams and prime Margarito.