Comments Thread For: The Deontay Wilder Conundrum

[original zero]

Literally you.

you're hiding behind memes because you can't actually counter my argument. i've laid out a logical and common sense argument. you've offered nothing of substance in response.

[yammy25]

you're hiding behind memes because you can't actually counter my argument. i've laid out a logical and common sense argument. you've offered nothing of substance in response.

You've done nothing of the sort.. Youve said that because there are better supplements, medication and recuperation that 2017 HW's beat any HW's that came before them?

Tell me exactly how Deontay Wilder beats prime Lennox Lewis, Prime Tyson, Prime Holyfield and any other Prime HW boxer that has come before him.

What physical, mental and skillset attributes do they possess to beat the best HW's that have ever lived?

I'll wait....

[joe strong]

Both Klitschkos never stepped up until they had well over 30 fights. Wilder ain't doing anything different...

[ironlungs]

20 years is a long time. everything evolves so quickly. size, strength, speed, nutrition, training techniques, recovery techniques, medicine, supplements, etc. it doesn't make any sense that the best from '97 would beat the best from '17.

we think of lennox lewis as great because of the way he dominated those around him in his time. we're comparing him against others from '97 and how much better or worse he was than those in that time.

which can trick us into thinking he was actually better than a deontay wilder or an anthony joshua. because we're comparing them against the best in their time. but the best in their time are way better than the best in lewis's time.

the idea that wilder would absolutely destroy ali and tyson doesn't sit well with people. those are our heroes. they've been put on a pedestal. but simple logic dictates that the best from '17 in something as physical as boxing would wipe the mat with the best from '97 or '77.

This is boxing we're talking about that has been practiced for a very long time, unlike football, basketball, and baseball. And i feel like boxers were better when times were harder for them (wars, racial issues, poverty) so to just say boxers of today would wipe out boxers of the past is crazy. In todays world the ali's are playing football and basketball.

[ironlungs]

You've done nothing of the sort.. Youve said that because there are better supplements, medication and recuperation that 2017 HW's beat any HW's that came before them?

Tell me exactly how Deontay Wilder beats prime Lennox Lewis, Prime Tyson, Prime Holyfield and any other Prime HW boxer that has come before him.

What physical, mental and skillset attributes do they possess to beat the best HW's that have ever lived?

I'll wait....

I like wilder but dont think he would beat any of the guys you named, i dont think he beats the old foreman. Hw division of today has a lack of talent.

[original zero]

Tell me exactly how Deontay Wilder beats prime Lennox Lewis, Prime Tyson, Prime Holyfield and any other Prime HW boxer that has come before him.

way too big for tyson & holyfield, just like lewis was. faster than lewis. hits harder than lewis. better stamina than lewis. he's a more evolved version of lewis.

[yammy25]

Both Klitschkos never stepped up until they had well over 30 fights. Wilder ain't doing anything different...

Vitali won the WBO in his 25th fight.

Both brothers fought for multiple intercontinental and EBU titles in a time when that was the gatekeep of getting to world championshp bouts. As evident when Vitali had to go right back down to that level after defending his WBO belt 5 times.

Wilder fought for the WBC continental americas title...

If you think that belt constitutes the same level of opponents as some of the EBU belt belt holders from the late 90's then you should have no problem in saying its current holder dominic breazeale was a brilliant opponent for AJ's 17th pro fight.

[yammy25]

way too big for tyson & holyfield, just like lewis was. faster than lewis. hits harder than lewis. better stamina than lewis. he's a more evolved version of lewis.

Tyson blew guys bigger than wilder out of the building!!

Wilder just weighed in less than what both Tyson and Holyfield fought at!?!

faster than lewis? absolutely not lol.. and the ring control / footwork is nowhere near

Better stamina? He's only gone 12 once against Stiverne and he was ****ed at the gong!!!

You are embarassing

[original zero]

Wilder just weighed in less than what both Tyson and Holyfield fought at!?!

we're talking a 2017 fight for the WBC title. which means year round drug testing. holyfield would not weigh more than him.

[yammy25]

we're talking a 2017 fight for the WBC title. which means year round drug testing. holyfield would not weigh more than him.

Absolute strawpolling.

You're now saying fighters who weighed more back in the day weighed more than wilder does now because they were all on drugs.

And oout of everything.. thats all you could say. Night night.