Comments Thread For: Foreman: Nobody Knew McGregor Until He Targeted Mayweather

[LockardTheGOAT]

You clearly have reading issues. Explain why neither Conor nor Rousey sold over a million pay per view buys before they started talking about Floyd? Explain why Rousey admtted that she used Floyd's name to promote her fight with Correia? You still haven't answered any of those questions. And Keith Thurman doesn't have a 4.2 billion dollar promotional company behind him the way Ronda and Conor have. If it weren't for the UFC no one would know who the f**k they are.

Explain why it's Conor who wants to go over into Floyd's world and not the other way around. It's because Floyd is the bigger star and commands the bigger money. It's simple economics but clearly you have no idea how economics and promotion works. No one has sold over 2 million pay per view buys without the name Mayweather on the card. Not Tyson, not Holyfield, not Manny, not Ronda, and definitely not Conor.

Conor had a two second role in Call of Duty, never had an official offer from HBO to be in Game of Thrones and was only offered a bit part in XXX. The WWE hasn't made a official offer to him either. Floyd got 20 million for Wrestlemania, has met with Presidents, and is the biggest pay per view draw of all time. It's not nuthugging those are facts.

You are a Conor nuthugger. I like both guys so I'm not biased like you are. You make claims without the numbers to back up any of your claims. How can a guy have a smaller following on social media, sold less pay per views, generated less money and still be the bigger name?

Why are so ******ed? Like seriously... I'm really asking.

Why are you accusing me of having reading issues when you're the one who always insists on repeating the same points over and over again because you can't comprehend or refute the rebuttals I already gave? Why do you keep repeating your mundane little "They didn't sell over a million 'till they mentioned Floyd" line of logic when I've already answered that easily in like three or four different ways? There isn't a single point here absent the laughable "calling out Floyd didn't do Thurman any good because he doesn't have a huge promotional company behind him" that I haven't already answered. Go back and re-read my posts moron, instead of just regurgitating the same points over and over and over again. This literally feels like arguing with a child.

[bigjavi973]

They know him oh they do.

Hes the loudmouth that quit like a biatch vs diaz

[Elroy The Great]

not sure if mcbeggar was unknown or not, but, no one gaf about him. once he mentions may, his face is splashed everywhere.

[brettWall]

Foreman may be right, but I don't think it's McGregor, Rousey, and others who started associating themselves with Mayweather out of thin air. It's usually the ****** people around them asking the darnedest questions. And fighters usually say yes to any ****** question, else they would be accused of cowardice. "Can you move down or up and fight so and so?" asks a ****** clown close by. "Err...yea...I can... err?" Before you know it fighter so and so is on headlines everywhere saying he's calling out everyone including kingkong.

[Johnwoo8686]

Why are so ******ed? Like seriously... I'm really asking.

Why are you accusing me of having reading issues when you're the one who always insists on repeating the same points over and over again because you can't comprehend or refute the rebuttals I already gave? Why do you keep repeating your mundane little "They didn't sell over a million 'till they mentioned Floyd" line of logic when I've already answered that easily in like three or four different ways? There isn't a single point here absent the laughable "calling out Floyd didn't do Thurman any good because he doesn't have a huge promotional company behind him" that I haven't already answered. Go back and re-read my posts moron, instead of just regurgitating the same points over and over and over again. This literally feels like arguing with a child.

Dude, you came back with no rebuttals. Your whole point was "they were already big." Neither Conor nor Rousey crossed over into the 1 million dollar pay per view
until they brought up Floyd.

And if my point is invalid why can't you answer why Rousey herself said she used Floyd's name to promote her fights? Why can't you answer that simple question?
It's because you don't want to admit you're wrong so you duck and dodge the point entirely.

You have no understanding of how promotion works or how economics works. Your whole argument is "people like Conor and Rousey just because" LOL dumbass.

[LockardTheGOAT]

Dude, you came back with no rebuttals. Your whole point was "they were already big." Neither Conor nor Rousey crossed over into the 1 million dollar pay per view
until they brought up Floyd.

And if my point is invalid why can't you answer why Rousey herself said she used Floyd's name to promote her fights? Why can't you answer that simple question?
It's because you don't want to admit you're wrong so you duck and dodge the point entirely.

You have no understanding of how promotion works or how economics works. Your whole argument is "people like Conor and Rousey just because" LOL dumbass.

Ronda using Floyd's name to get a few extra headlines is hardly the same thing as saying most or all of her entire drawing power is down to mentioning Floyd. For the millionth time, no one - literally no one - becomes a huge star let alone a massive global star just by mentioning the name of another. That is just a level of ******ity and delusion that is damn-near unprecedented. Garnering that level of public interest is a special thing, and to think that all it takes to get people emotionally invested in you on a massive scale is name-dropping another big star is just assine.

And lol @ "you gave no rebuttals." I gave plenty - a few of which I'll happily repost for your dumb-ass - but you did almost nothing to counter those except repeat what you've already said before:

That's the most laughable form of Correlation Doesn't Imply Causation that I've ever seen. Conor and Ronda were already big stars and (gradually becoming bigger and bigger overtime), and arguably the only reason some people took notice of them mentioning Floyd at all is because they were already relevant figures. Any ordinary schome can try and piggyback off someone's name and scold them in the media - Doesn't mean people will give a ****, let alone magically become so invested in that person that they become a global star. Keith Thurman has mentioned Mayweather plenty of times, including just recently. Why isn't he headlining PPVs, selling out arenas, drawing millions of buys in PPV, loved by the media and the masses alike, etc.? You have no idea how f'n dumb you sound even attempting to use this as an argument.

Conor didn't even "call out" Floyd in 2015, you idiot. He briefly mentioned in a couple of interviews when asked about him that he would destroy him. You don't start headlining PPVs and drawing a huge amount of viewers just based on that. He and Ronda were already stars at that time and their fame was gradually increasing with each new win. Again, you're just a Floyd nuthugger who wants to give him as much credit as possible for things he had practically nothing to do with. For one final time, it takes a whole lot more to become a star with the masses - let alone a global superstar - than just criticizing someone in a whole different sport (and briefly at that.) Unfortuanely, you're so hopelessly ****** and ignorant that this will never get through to you.

And Keith Thurman has talked about Floyd plenty, but the reason no one gives a **** is because hardly anyone outside of hardcore boxing fans give a **** about Thurman. Unlike is the case with Conor and Rousey.

[Johnwoo8686]

Ronda using Floyd's name to get a few extra headlines is hardly the same thing as saying most or all of her entire drawing power is down to mentioning Floyd. For the millionth time, no one - literally no one - becomes a huge star let alone a massive global star just by mentioning the name of another. That is just a level of ******ity and delusion that is damn-near unprecedented. Garnering that level of public interest is a special thing, and to think that all it takes to get people emotionally invested in you on a massive scale is name-dropping another big star is just assine.

And lol @ "you gave no rebuttals." I gave plenty - a few of which I'll happily repost for your dumb-ass - but you did almost nothing to counter those except repeat what you've already said before:

So is George Foreman ******? George Foreman who made hundreds of millions of dollars outside boxing? George Foreman who has been around the fight game for decades, is he ****** too? You think you know about fight promotion better than George? Because George said no one knew who McGregor was until he mentioned Mayweather. And he has a point.

Let's face it, you knew who Mayweather was long before you knew who McGregor was and I can almost guarantee you didn't know who Conor was until 2015 despite the fact that he has been fighting since 2008. Why do you think you know about him now and not back then? I know you're a little slow so I'll let you think about it for a moment

Your rebuttals were poor, all you said was that they were already popular but the fact is Ronda and Conor didn't explode in popularity until 2015. Unless you were a hardcore follower of the fight game you would have had no idea who the Fuck they were.

[LockardTheGOAT]

So is George Foreman ******? George Foreman who made hundreds of millions of dollars outside boxing? George Foreman who has been around the fight game for decades, is he ****** too? You think you know about fight promotion better than George? Because George said no one knew who McGregor was until he mentioned Mayweather. And he has a point.

Let's face it, you knew who Mayweather was long before you knew who McGregor was and I can almost guarantee you didn't know who Conor was until 2015 despite the fact that he has been fighting since 2008. Why do you think you know about him now and not back then? I know you're a little slow so I'll let you think about it for a moment

Your rebuttals were poor, all you said was that they were already popular but the fact is Ronda and Conor didn't explode in popularity until 2015. Unless you were a hardcore follower of the fight game you would have had no idea who the Fuck they were.

No, George is not ******. However, him believing that Mayweather is the reason for McGregor's popularity IS ******. Smart people are capable of holding ****** thoughts on certain things, too. I suspect George is more ignorant than ****** though, and is just taking a positioning standpoint by putting his sport over MMA by saying the reason for Conor's popularity is due to boxing's biggest star.

You're probably the very same way, only you have the indignity of being a Floyd nuthugger on top of it.

As for the whole "They didn't explode in popularity until 2015", practically no one becomes a star overnight. And when/if they do become one, they don't reach their peak level of popularity and drawing power right away either. That **** happens overtime as they build up more and more momentum. Floyd had been fighting since 1996, yet didn't become a megastar until 2007. Took Pacquiao a number of years to achieve that level of success, too. It's the same with practically everyone.

[Johnwoo8686]

No, George is not ******. However, him believing that Mayweather is the reason for McGregor's popularity IS ******. Smart people are capable of holding ****** thoughts on certain things, too. I suspect George is more ignorant than ****** though, and is just taking a positioning standpoint by putting his sport over MMA by saying the reason for Conor's popularity is due to boxing's biggest star.

You're probably the very same way, only you have the indignity of being a Floyd nuthugger on top of it.

As for the whole "They didn't explode in popularity until 2015", practically no one becomes a star overnight. And when/if they do become one, they don't reach their peak level of popularity and drawing power right away either. That **** happens overtime as they build up more and more momentum. Floyd had been fighting since 1996, yet didn't become a megastar until 2007. Took Pacquiao a number of years to achieve that level of success, too. It's the same with practically everyone.

No, George's position is not ******. His opinion is very valid and judging by the comments in this thread a lot of people agree with him. I've visited MMA websites and there are people agreeing with him there too. I've met several people who also didn't know who McGregor was until he mentioned Floyd in interviews so obviously what McGregor did helped his popularity.

Funny how both Ronda and Conor were fighting for years but only became superstars after mentioning Floyd. Conor had NOT headlined a PPV event until he started beefing with Aldo and saying he wanted to fight Floyd. A number of things had to happen in order for Conor to get his popularity and it is clear that being seen as a possible antagonist to the biggest star in boxing is a way to help your career.

You call me a Floyd nuthugger but you are clearly a McGregor nuthugger. At least I am using statistical evidence. You have no facts to back up your argument. Conor hasn't done bigger numbers than Floyd, hasn't generated more money, and doesn't have the bigger following online but somehow he's a bigger star in your estimation

As Tito Ortiz said: "McGregor should consider himself lucky that Floyd Mayweather is even mentioning him"

[LockardTheGOAT]

No, George's position is not ******. His opinion is very valid and judging by the comments in this thread a lot of people agree with him. I've visited MMA websites and there are people agreeing with him there too. I've met several people who also didn't know who McGregor was until he mentioned Floyd in interviews so obviously what McGregor did helped his popularity.

Funny how both Ronda and Conor were fighting for years but only became superstars after mentioning Floyd. Conor had NOT headlined a PPV event until he started beefing with Aldo and saying he wanted to fight Floyd. A number of things had to happen in order for Conor to get his popularity and it is clear that being seen as a possible antagonist to the biggest star in boxing is a way to help your career.

You call me a Floyd nuthugger but you are clearly a McGregor nuthugger. At least I am using statistical evidence. You have no facts to back up your argument. Conor hasn't done bigger numbers than Floyd, hasn't generated more money, and doesn't have the bigger following online but somehow he's a bigger star in your estimation

As Tito Ortiz said: "McGregor should consider himself lucky that Floyd Mayweather is even mentioning him"

Yes, his opinion is ******. No, the fact that there are many that agree with it doesn't make it any less ******. History has proven that even enormous amounts of people can be suspectible to believing in ****** ****, and to be fair, most people in general are of average/below average intelligence. That includes you.

Literally nothing else you've said is anything I haven't already responded to. You keep asking the same questions and bringing up the same tired points ad nausem like you're bringing something new to the table and not just rehashing the same tired arguments that I've already gone over half a dozen times by now. I even re-quoted some of the stuff I already said just to refresh your memory and you still insisted on ignoring it and repeating yourself! There's no more use in arguing with you, you clearly have reading and learning disabilities on top of a double digit IQ.

And yes, you are a Floyd nuthugger. The worst kind.