Comments Thread For: Canelo: Golovkin is Asking For More Than He Deserves!

[richardt]

Presumably Canelo's team knows about boxing contracts and negotiations. And they say Golovkin has been given a good offer but is asking for more than he is worth.

Of course 15 million is a good offer if you have no other choice but to take it. But is it the only offer??? GGG's team has made a counter offer. And since you said you are working up some numbers then come up with what you think a PPV split should be! 60/40, 70/30, 65/35, 55/45. Lets see if you can be objective and come up with those split numbers instead of being one-sided. And just because Canelos team knows about contracts doesnt change the fact that so does team GGG which is still above anything anyone here knows.

[i'm a fun haver]

exactly !

Golovkin is making out like Canelo offered to pay him with cabbages and potatoes

15mil is absurd money, he should have accepted 10mil

10mil to fight WHEN?

[richardt]

good god, I wouldn't trust them with my wheelbarrow

they have lied incessantly, they have refused to give concessions to EVERY potential opponent, and they have never managed to make a truly meaningful fight

they offered Saunders 1.5mil FFS

And the same can be said about any team including Canelo's. They make decisions for their team and I'll take that over some Boxing scene "financial expert".

[koolkc107]

GGG is half the biggest fight in boxing. Those tend to be more than the sum of the parts. You're telling me Floyd deserved 25m vs Oscar based on his ppv history?

Bud Jacobs is a challenger with pitiful ratings, who got outsold 2.5x by GGG vs Canadian in his hometown. 3m lol. There's Floyd opponents that make less. It's 2x what Degale and Jack made for a unification, combined

I am going to make this simple for you.

I agree that it is the biggest fight in boxing.

But, Canelo is the bigger star by far AND has bigger options by far.

There are actually guys out there that he makes AS MUCH or more money with.

Pac at 154 or even a 152 catchweight.

A rematch with Cotto.

Hell, the fight with Jr is going to be huge as well.

And, there are lesser guys that give him the same money over two or three fights- your Charlos, Andrades, rematch with Lara...

Contrast that with what is waiting for Golovkin if the fight isn't made.

Who does Gennady fight that brings that kind of money?

Which 2 guys? Which 3 guys? What combination of opponents add up to 15 million?

That is what you are dealing with here.

Not what is "fair".

[ShoulderRoll]

Of course 15 million is a good offer if you have no other choice but to take it. But is it the only offer??? GGG's team has made a counter offer. And since you said you are working up some numbers then come up with what you think a PPV split should be! 60/40, 70/30, 65/35, 55/45. Lets see if you can be objective and come up with those split numbers instead of being one-sided.

$15 million is a great offer, period. Golovkin should jump at it and beat Canelo, then he can dictate terms for the lucrative rematch.

As far as splits go....basing it on each guy's PPV history the 90/10 split that De La Hoya threw out there is probably not that far out of line.

Golovkin hasn't proven himself to be a big PPV draw. Am I wrong to say that? It's the truth even if GGG's management and financial team don't want it to be so.

[i'm a fun haver]

To fight when?
Nobody is going to answer because you know how ****ing ****** it is.
"MUH SEPTEMBER 2017 DOE!" lol

[Progrssive_Jedi]

Everyone has Seen this Duck move before

Same **** Floyd played with Manny. Offer an absurd amount that they know they won't take.

GGG/K2 isn't going to take what amounts to under 20% for the biggest fight in boxing.

Everyone but GGG haters and Canelo apologist will see past this ploy.

[HeroBando]

I am going to make this simple for you.

I agree that it is the biggest fight in boxing.

But, Canelo is the bigger star by far AND has bigger options by far.

There are actually guys out there that he makes AS MUCH or more money with.

Pac at 154 or even a 152 catchweight.

A rematch with Cotto.

Hell, the fight with Jr is going to be huge as well.

And, there are lesser guys that give him the same money over two or three fights- your Charlos, Andrades, rematch with Lara...

Contrast that with what is waiting for Golovkin if the fight isn't made.

Who does Gennady fight that brings that kind of money?

Which 2 guys? Which 3 guys? What combination of opponents add up to 15 million?

That is what you are dealing with here.

Not what is "fair".

There's a lot at stake for Canelo. You can't be the face of boxing if you're perceived to be ducking the biggest fight in the sport. GGG might lock in all 4 belts soon, what's Canelo gonna do, remain a side show till GGG moves up or retires? You see how Max slapped him around after Smith for his ducking? It'll only get worse

[richardt]

$15 million is a great offer, period. Golovkin should jump at it and beat Canelo, then he can dictate terms for the lucrative rematch.

As far as splits go....basing it on each guy's PPV history the 90/10 split that De La Hoya threw out there is probably not that far out of line.

Golovkin hasn't proven himself to be a big PPV draw. Am I wrong to say that? It's the truth even if GGG's management and financial team don't want it to be so.

No one would ever take 90/10 and even Floyd vs Pac was not based 100% on past PPV's. A fair offer is what the fight would make and a decent split. Thats why team GGG is asking for a split, based on the fact that the fight could make huge PPV sales. Canelo cant do those numbers and neither can GGG against anyone but themselves. If there is a split I guarantee you it will be more like 70/30 or 65/35.

[Williamb45]

you cant really compare jacobs/ggg to canelo/chavez ppv wise. if you switched names around the result will be different. if say ggg/chavez does better (which probably would) than canelo/jacobs does that mean ggg deserves more than 50% vs canelo?

Spoken like someone with common sense! IMO K2 doesn't know what they're doing with GGG's career? I mean he's 35 years old. Been a pro for over 10 YEARS?? His BEST win was against a Welterweight at the FULL 160 MW limit???? AND the counter offer K2 did was they want at LEAST 40%???? LMAO!!!! Asking for 40% is a straight DUCK. If Jacobs/GGG does 40% of PPV buys compared to Chavez/Canelo numbers then I'll rethink it but who are we kidding??? Jacobs/GGG will probably do 25% what they do PPV wise if even that?


"Golovkin's side a flat fee -- at least $15 million -- while Golovkin's side wants to have a stake, as much as 40 percent, in the event."

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...o-weekend-bout