Comments Thread For: Canelo: Golovkin is Asking For More Than He Deserves!

[HeroBando]

I am not against any fighter getting as much as he can...especially a guy like Lil g, who anyone can see is popular with real fans.

I didn't mention anything about GPB saving money.

And as far as "fair", Golovkin is the B side and 15M flat is as fair as this is going to get IMO.

1M buys at $70 each equals 70M. 45% of that is 31.5M

When you factor in other purses, promotion and training costs, ect. the offer of 15M guarantee makes a lot of sense.

Especially since it is Golovkin's only real shot at mega stardom.

That is what Golovkin is conceding the chance for, just like others have before him.

It's not fair cause there's never been a flat fee for the biggest fight in boxing. Can you think of one? Even lesser ppvs have upside all around, including Canelo vs Khan, Chavez. Does that give you more perspective?

Again, I'm not saying he would make more with upside. You guys are saying he'd make less. Which is only fair and a better deal for Canelo. Wish you'd start making sense.

[ShoulderRoll]

Its BS unless there is a PPV split offered since team GGG already made a counter offer to Canelo's team for a split last year which makes all of these discussions old news. No reports have discussed what the split would be and most likely it would be in Canelo's favor but leave it up to BScene experts to somehow not provide any reason why a PPV split is unacceptable. A PPV split is the norm.

Split versus flat fee shouldn't matter.

The only thing that does is whether or not Golovkin is getting compensated fairly based on his drawing power compared to Canelo's.

[richardt]

Split versus flat fee shouldn't matter.

The only thing that does is whether or not Golovkin is getting compensated fairly based on his drawing power compared to Canelo's.

It DOES matter because GGG and his management and financial team make decisions based on their knowledge which is greater than everyone here on Boxingscene since the inception of this site, combined. They returned a counter offer and that is how it stands. I will trust their decision over these BScene wannabe boxing management experts and financial experts any day.

[HeroBando]

Split versus flat fee shouldn't matter.

The only thing that does is whether or not Golovkin is getting compensated fairly based on his drawing power compared to Canelo's.

The only was to do that is via percentage split, right? If it's a dud, a flat fee will have GGG way overpaid, and conversely. So you're on the wrong side of this argument

[koolkc107]

It's not fair cause there's never been a flat fee for the biggest fight in boxing. Can you think of one? Even lesser ppvs have upside all around, including Canelo vs Khan, Chavez. Does that give you more perspective?

Again, I'm not saying he would make more with upside. You guys are saying he'd make less. Which is only fair and a better deal for Canelo. Wish you'd start making sense.

Stop saying fair.

This isn't about fair.

And frankly, boxing is full of big fights where the purse (even with a split) wasn't fair.

This is about opportunity.

This is about Lil g taking his place in history by beating an elite fighter closer to his own size.

With 15 million guaranteed and bonafide stardom mixed in, he shouldn't hesitate.

The irony is that whenever Golovkin has been a clear A side he has been much more ruthless in his negotiation than Canelo is being.

Just ask Danny Jacobs...

[ShoulderRoll]

The only was to do that is via percentage split, right? If it's a dud, a flat fee will have GGG way overpaid, and conversely. So you're on the wrong side of this argument

We would base it on each guy's drawing power headed into the fight.

The numbers for GGG vs Jacobs and also for Canelo vs Chavez Jr would need to be factored into the equation.

[HeroBando]

Stop saying fair.

This isn't about fair.

And frankly, boxing is full of big fights where the purse (even with a split) wasn't fair.

This is about opportunity.

This is about Lil g taking his place in history by beating an elite fighter closer to his own size.

With 15 million guaranteed and bonafide stardom mixed in, he shouldn't hesitate.

The irony is that whenever Golovkin has been a clear A side he has been much more ruthless in his negotiation than Canelo is being.

Just ask Danny Jacobs...

Like I said, wish you'd start making sense. No name Jacobs was holding out for 3m to exercise his mando, GGG had to drop his HBO date to make it a ppv. When is Canelo conceding that kind of split to the likes of Jacobs or Lemieux? Which A siders in the sport gets you a better split?

If you can't find one precedent in the long and unfair history of boxing, it's next level unfair. But why would you be invested in defending that ****?

[ShoulderRoll]

It DOES matter because GGG and his management and financial team make decisions based on their knowledge which is greater than everyone here on Boxingscene since the inception of this site, combined. They returned a counter offer and that is how it stands. I will trust their decision over these BScene wannabe boxing management experts and financial experts any day.

We are having an open discussion here about what GGG's worth is, based on his earnings history and PPV numbers.

If you aren't interested in having that discussion with fellow Boxing Sceners because we might say something counter to GGG's management and financial team then you don't have to participate.

[koolkc107]

Like I said, wish you'd start making sense. No name Jacobs was holding out for 3m to exercise his mando, GGG had to drop his HBO date to make it a ppv. When is Canelo conceding that kind of split to the likes of Jacobs or Lemieux? Which A siders in the sport gets you a better split?

If you can't find one precedent in the long and unfair history of boxing, it's next level unfair. But why would you be invested in defending that ****?

Your problem is you think Lil g is a name.

He isn't.

With a guy like Lemieux (who has his own fans) in historic MSG, Golovkin couldn't crack 150K buys. Some said as low as 97K buys.

That is next level chutzpah if you then think you deserve a split.

Once you get it thru your dome that as much as we (more sophisticated fans) know Lil g might merit it, the market says otherwise and that is what PPV is all about.

As far as Jacobs, they ARE holding it in NYC right?

That's Danny helping the gate.

Jacobs deserves 3M much more than Golovkin deserves any split with a guy that literally brings proof of millions more buys into the negotiation.

[robbyheartbaby]

Canelo brings good figures but must understand a flat fee won't work here .Everybody in boxing is waiting for him to grow some balls and fight GGG and it is he that does not deserve all the extra money this fight brings .It is both that bring and both should share.

Still not convince ginger has got the balls ....he should stick with his chinny welterweights.

Agreed 100% well said!