Comments Thread For: Canelo: Golovkin is Asking For More Than He Deserves!

[steeve steel]

what does that fight have to do with this?.. golovkin isnt getting nor does he deserve 30 ***in million vs canelo

Just a number comparison... for the biggest fight in boxing right now.

[steeve steel]

Check our fact that $15,000,000 is 3x bigger than ANY other offer GGG has EVER got or ever WILL once this fight doesn't get made. I bet yoy 10K without Cano GGG won't ever get that in a fight.

What does that have to do with anything? We're talking numbers for the biggest fight in boxing right now. You always need a dance partner ... Canelo would never have made that money without Mayweather...who never would have made that money without Pac.

[steeve steel]

That PPV was $100 and those numbers are before cable providers and HBO took their cut.

Yet...May still made 200 mil and pac 100... so?

So seem to forget ... altough GGG and Canelo aren't may and pac, this is still the biggest fight in boxing right now! With the right promo and build up... who knows how much it can do...

[HeroBando]

True, none of those guys took a flat fee.

But again, those guys were stars in their own right.

Like it or not, Canelo has a proven PPV record he can bring to the table.

Lil g cannot.

Let's hope the Jacobs fight improves that, but I am guessing it won't.

And after Canelo and Jr get thru, Golovkin may well find himself in an even worse bargaining position.

He should accept the 15 million if Canelo is not offering a split.

The chance for stardom is worth the risk.

He might as well see how the Jacobs ppv goes. Could beat Canelos last ppv.

But answer me this: If this is such a great deal, why not just offer fair upside, like every other major ppv? You guys are saying, even at 40% GBP saves a ton of money vs this generous flat fee. So not only is it fair and standard, it it's much more for Canelo. Why are you against?

[richardt]

When has Bob Arum ever split an event with anyone, for a fight of any magnitude? Arum is literally the king of paying a guy a flat fee on the front end, with the backside of the deal so high that said fighter never sees any additional check. Heck, he's done that with Marquez himself on countless fights.

The front-end check, offered by Golden Boy a while ago, is to take the fight for $10m-$15m; for Alvarez to end up seeing his own $15m off of the US money, the event would likely have to generate $60m on US PPV (1m PPV buys @$60sd) which is unlikely to even come close to happening.

Alvarez, in essence, has offered up the lion's share of the likely US PPV money to try and make the fight, and K2 has come back asking for an even bigger cashout for their 35 year old middleweight. lol

You're missing the point. A number of people high in the sport said a flat fee is a BS offer! I'll take them over these Bscene as of last night financial experts. I pretty ***ing certain GGG's financial team and management know more about boxing contracts and money and these wannabes here wouldnt know a boxing contract if they got a massive papercut from one.

[richardt]

How about all these BScene sudden financial experts who are known GGG haters offer the best advice possible and that is to contact GGG's team and tell them to not listen to all these BScene sudden financial experts, GGG haters! That would be excellent advice! Arum, Marquez, GGG's financial experts know more about a boxing contract than any of these keyboard H&R block wannabes.

[ShoulderRoll]

You're missing the point. A number of people high in the sport said a flat fee is a BS offer!

But is it really a BS offer, though?

That's what we are discussing. And looking at each guy's drawing power it's looking like $15 million is more than fair.

It's quite generous in fact.

[koolkc107]

He might as well see how the Jacobs ppv goes. Could beat Canelos last ppv.

But answer me this: If this is such a great deal, why not just offer fair upside, like every other major ppv? You guys are saying, even at 40% GBP saves a ton of money vs this generous flat fee. So not only is it fair and standard, it it's much more for Canelo. Why are you against?

I am not against any fighter getting as much as he can...especially a guy like Lil g, who anyone can see is popular with real fans.

I didn't mention anything about GPB saving money.

And as far as "fair", Golovkin is the B side and 15M flat is as fair as this is going to get IMO.

1M buys at $70 each equals 70M. 45% of that is 31.5M

When you factor in other purses, promotion and training costs, ect. the offer of 15M guarantee makes a lot of sense.

Especially since it is Golovkin's only real shot at mega stardom.

That is what Golovkin is conceding the chance for, just like others have before him.

[richardt]

But is it really a BS offer, though?

That's what we are discussing. And looking at each guy's drawing power it's looking like $15 million is more than fair.

It's quite generous in fact.

Its BS unless there is a PPV split offered since team GGG already made a counter offer to Canelo's team for a split last year which makes all of these discussions old news. No reports have discussed what the split would be and most likely it would be in Canelo's favor but leave it up to BScene experts to somehow not provide any reason why a PPV split is unacceptable. A PPV split is the norm.

[richardt]

Flat fee is BS:

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-rips-golden-boys-flat-fee-offer-golovkin-bullsht--109223

http://www.boxingscene.com/marquez-canelo-flat-fee-offer-avoid-golovkin--109369