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  • Butch.McRae
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    #61
    Originally posted by bigdunny1
    Floyd is all talk remember all the tweeting with Mikey Garcia and everyone saying it's a wrap he signing with Mayweather promotions...nope last 2 fights have nothing to do with Floyd. Remember all the talk about Schaefer coming to Mayweather promotions years ago and everyone saying wait till Schaefer no compete is over he will take over as CEO of Mayweather promotions. Nope Schaefer started his own company. And now Floyd all up in the olympics tweeting and following Shakur like a groupie and still couldn't seal the deal. For whatever reason people don't want to hitch their wagon to Mayweather promotions he comes off like a complete amateur. Even AL haymon he is tight as can be with Floyd yet rarely uses them for PBC giving most of his relevant fights to other promoters instead. If he had more faith in Floyd as a promoter he would send more fights his way.

    I think this falls on Elerbe who seems way over his head and just a yes man flunkie. Floyd ain't savy enough and needs a better business man to run his company.
    Two of the top five live gates since the inception of the PBC was Broner/Porter (3rd or 4th highest ratings) and Jack/DeGale, both of which were promoted by Mayweather Promotions. Haymon just seems to rotate the promoter he uses based on the market of the fight and the fighters on the card (Some of the fighters are actually signed to guys like Dibella and Floyd). If you notice the rotation has consistently been Dibella, Schaefer, Mayweather for the last 4-5 months on the bigger cards. TGB (Goosen Promotions) is back in the mix now too (Apparently for Brook/Spence if it happens). The other things stated about Mikey are valid, but I never believed that lol He never said Schaefer was coming to work for him. He said they'd "do business" like he says about literally everybody. Valid point on Stevenson though, but don't exaggerate to make a point.

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    • HanzGruber
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      #62
      Originally posted by hectari
      Why do you not realize that shakur only signed with prince after, he didnt have prince with him when floyd was courting him. Floyd just never gave him a professional secure offer, so shakur got with prince, ward, and they shopped him around and top rank gave him a professional offer.
      What? You don't know that lol. plus he still needed a manager. Doubt he would just sign a promo deal without one. Once prince came in the picture I'm sure Floyd wanted no parts

      "Professional offer" as if loud just has his word and doesn't have real contracts

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        #63
        Originally posted by Butch.McRae
        Two of the top five live gates since the inception of the PBC was Broner/Porter (3rd or 4th highest ratings) and Jack/DeGale, both of which were promoted by Mayweather Promotions. Haymon just seems to rotate the promoter he uses based on the market of the fight and the fighters on the card (Some of the fighters are actually signed to guys like Dibella and Floyd). If you notice the rotation has consistently been Dibella, Schaefer, Mayweather for the last 4-5 months on the bigger cards. TGB (Goosen Promotions) is back in the mix now too (Apparently for Brook/Spence if it happens). The other things stated about Mikey are valid, but I never believed that lol He never said Schaefer was coming to work for him. He said they'd "do business" like he says about literally everybody. Valid point on Stevenson though, but don't exaggerate to make a point.
        lol Floyd was the lead promotor for the biggest fight ever and that guy thinks they're in over their head now? People love to talk out their ass

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        • bigdunny1
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          #64
          Originally posted by Butch.McRae
          Two of the top five live gates since the inception of the PBC was Broner/Porter (3rd or 4th highest ratings) and Jack/DeGale, both of which were promoted by Mayweather Promotions. Haymon just seems to rotate the promoter he uses based on the market of the fight and the fighters on the card (Some of the fighters are actually signed to guys like Dibella and Floyd). If you notice the rotation has consistently been Dibella, Schaefer, Mayweather for the last 4-5 months on the bigger cards. TGB (Goosen Promotions) is back in the mix now too (Apparently for Brook/Spence if it happens). The other things stated about Mikey are valid, but I never believed that lol He never said Schaefer was coming to work for him. He said they'd "do business" like he says about literally everybody. Valid point on Stevenson though, but don't exaggerate to make a point.
          Jack is a Mayweather signed fighter so of course he was part of the promotions so that doesn't count. Other then that you named one big fight haymon sent him where as I can name tons of PBC fights that had nothing to do with floyd. Lou and the other promoters have gotten more PBC fights then floyd. Haymon uses many promoters that's true but he uses floyd less then he does others and given his relationship with floyd that seems strange. If things were equal floyd would get the fights based on his relationship. The fact that it's often not the case leads only one conclusion floyd doesn't have promotional pieces in place to handle the workload or haymon just feels these fights will be more successful with these other promoters.

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            #65
            Originally posted by boxingitis
            Mayweather is jealous of Shakur because Shakur has a silver medal and Mayweather has Bronze medal.. i
            Mayweather beat 3 fighters at the olympic while Shakur beat 2, Mayweather also could have easily gotten the decision against him in the semis.

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            • HanzGruber
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              #66
              Originally posted by bigdunny1
              Jack is a Mayweather signed fighter so of course he was part of the promotions so that doesn't count. Other then that you named one big fight haymon sent him where as I can name tons of PBC fights that had nothing to do with floyd. Lou and the other promoters have gotten more PBC fights then floyd. Haymon uses many promoters that's true but he uses floyd less then he does others and given his relationship with floyd that seems strange. If things were equal floyd would get the fights based on his relationship. The fact that it's often not the case leads only one conclusion floyd doesn't have promotional pieces in place to handle the workload or haymon just feels these fights will be more successful with these other promoters.
              Mayweather promotions was in charge of Floyd vs PAC dude wtf are you even talking about

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              • bigdunny1
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                #67
                Originally posted by HanzGruber
                Mayweather promotions was in charge of Floyd vs PAC dude wtf are you even talking about
                Of course floyd will use his own company for his own fights. I'm talking about PBC you dumb phuk. Haymon rarely uses mayweather promotions for his PBC fights. now shut up and let grown folk talk.

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                • jjsmyth87
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by el***
                  J Prince sent a goon squad after Mayweather to the top Rank gym when Mayweather tried to fire him as manager. Mayweather was lucky he wasnt there at the time, Ellerbe got sent to the hospital. Mayweather had to pay him 600K to go away or he would send killers after his family.

                  Shakur is an idiot for signing with Prince
                  Why dont you tell the real story. It was arum who paid the 600k to j prince after his goons beat up tmt with baseball bats. Arum saved floyds life literally

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                  • Floyd Junior
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Idunnoshet
                    Don't know if they were fans to begin with . The kid hasn't even fought pro yet . So to say " They stopped being fans " doesn't make sense . Unless ur implying " Mayweather Loyalist" would follow his amateur fights.
                    A fighter doesn't need to be a pro for you to be a fan of his. Amateurs, in particular the ones as talented as Shakur, can already garner a strong following without throwing a pro punch.

                    In fact, just by association (i.e. being endorsed by the likes of Spence, Tank, etc. - all of whom are friendly with Mayweather and are liked by Mayweather supporters), one can become a fan of Shakur without even seeing him fight!

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                    • GMAN SUPREME
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by bigdunny1
                      Jack is a Mayweather signed fighter so of course he was part of the promotions so that doesn't count. Other then that you named one big fight haymon sent him where as I can name tons of PBC fights that had nothing to do with floyd. Lou and the other promoters have gotten more PBC fights then floyd. Haymon uses many promoters that's true but he uses floyd less then he does others and given his relationship with floyd that seems strange. If things were equal floyd would get the fights based on his relationship. The fact that it's often not the case leads only one conclusion floyd doesn't have promotional pieces in place to handle the workload or haymon just feels these fights will be more successful with these other promoters.
                      it is strange I thought for sure after all those fighters left gbp they would join the tmt promotional stable.I guess hymie had other plans probably because he knows lou and the others promoters have actual experience unlike that idiot ellerbe.

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