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  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
    You say they do not but WADA LABs says that is one of their tools that they use!!!

    WADA LABs use a variety of techniques. The below is but one technique.

    "NL: Although we have no current direct method of detecting autologous transfusions, we are able to detect when athletes have received a transfusion from blood bags containing di-(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate (DEHP), a plasticiser used to make transfusion blood bags more pliable. During a transfusion, significant amounts of DEHP leech into the bloodstream, the metabolites of which can be detected in the urine."
    WRONG. This was A STUDY. This was NOT WADA PROTOCOL. WADA TOLD YOUR IGNORANT ASS THAT THEY USE THE ABP TO CHECK.


    THE ARTICLE THAT YOU ARE USING EVEN MENTIONS THAT THEY USE THE ABP!

    SN: What methods can you use to help determine autologous transfusions? NL: We have already implemented the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) which monitors an individual’s biological parameters over a sustained period of time. The ABP can be used to identify hematological parameter changes associated with autologous transfusion (such as Hb, hematocrit and reticulocyte count). - See more at: http://www.selectscience.net/selects....XEZeMRja.dpuf

    They do NOT check for plasticizers. The ABP checks for changes USING BLOOD SAMPLES. I showed you this information already, clown.

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    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
      Then why did you say that the lab would find plasticizers in the urine!!!!?????? THEY CLEARLY STATE THAT THEY USE THE ABP TO CHECK, AND THAT IS A BLOOD TEST TO CHECK FOR BLOOD MANIPULATION, NOT A URINE TEST. GIVE THE **** UP!
      I keep on telling you but you do not get it. WADA LABs can use a variety of techniques. They can check for DEHP. If the levels are high then that is a red flag. Then if they believe its a blood transfusion then they focus on certain parameters such as HT, RBC, ..... which is what you are more than likely talking about.


      My quote stated that they can detect DEHP in urine.

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      • Originally posted by larry x.. View Post
        why are people still arguing over this ****?? its over Manny ****ing lost..move on!!!

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        • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
          WRONG. This was A STUDY. This was NOT WADA PROTOCOL. WADA TOLD YOUR IGNORANT ASS THAT THEY USE THE ABP TO CHECK.


          THE ARTICLE THAT YOU ARE USING EVEN MENTIONS THAT THEY USE THE ABP!

          SN: What methods can you use to help determine autologous transfusions? NL: We have already implemented the Athlete Biological Passport (ABP) which monitors an individual’s biological parameters over a sustained period of time. The ABP can be used to identify hematological parameter changes associated with autologous transfusion (such as Hb, hematocrit and reticulocyte count). - See more at: http://www.selectscience.net/selects....XEZeMRja.dpuf

          They do NOT check for plasticizers. The ABP checks for changes USING BLOOD SAMPLES. I showed you this information already, clown.


          I provide you the article so you think I do not know what they are saying?

          BUT what you are doing is reading what you want to read and DEFLECTING OFF what you cannot stand to read.

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          • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
            I keep on telling you but you do not get it. WADA LABs can use a variety of techniques. They can check for DEHP. If the levels are high then that is a red flag. Then if they believe its a blood transfusion then they focus on certain parameters such as HT, RBC, ..... which is what you are more than likely talking about.


            My quote stated that they can detect DEHP in urine.
            You're a moron. We already know they can detect it in urine. That is NOT what they use.

            Can you read?

            “The Athlete Biological Passport, alone or in combination with non-analytical intelligence, is a proven powerful tool to deter athletes from doping and assert anti-doping rule violations on those who cheat,” USADA officials wrote in the email.

            Do you understand alone OR with non-analytical intelligence?

            Do you understand that the ABP checks blood samples for blood manipulation?

            You have no legs to stand on and this is boring. Give up.

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            • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post


              I provide you the article so you think I do not know what they are saying?

              BUT what you are doing is reading what you want to read and DEFLECTING OFF what you cannot stand to read.
              Meanwhile, in the world of the non-butt hurt, we do understand that you are wrong.


              Mayweather passed 19 blood and urine tests.

              1. The samples were not diluted. You failed to show any problem with the specific gravity test.

              2. You failed to link him to any kind of multiple IV use, as you tried to say he did. LMAO.

              3. You failed to link him to any micro-dosing.

              4. You failed to implicate the ref in cheating.

              5. You failed to implicate NSAC in favoritism.

              6. You failed to implicate the judges in cheating.

              7. You failed to implicate USADA in cheating.

              8. You failed to implicate the DCO in cheating, as we now see.

              9. You failed to implicate the TUEC at not doing their job properly.

              Is there really any more to discuss? You were wrong about everything. You know it, and I know it.

              You are behaving like a bltch. We can get this over with once and for all by making a poll and accepting the outcome. But you're not up for it. You know why? Because you know you will lose.

              I've dared you over and over to step up. You have no balls.

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              • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                You're a moron. We already know they can detect it in urine. That is NOT what they use.

                Can you read?

                “The Athlete Biological Passport, alone or in combination with non-analytical intelligence, is a proven powerful tool to deter athletes from doping and assert anti-doping rule violations on those who cheat,” USADA officials wrote in the email.

                Do you understand alone OR with non-analytical intelligence?

                Do you understand that the ABP checks blood samples for blood manipulation?

                You have no legs to stand on and this is boring. Give up.
                So the athletes were lied to? WADA LABs are screwed and the athletes can do whatever they want? Is that what you are saying?


                Here is a quote from WADA to test DEHP and non-DEHP bags:
                "CONCLUSION: Hepcidin quantification and urinary DEHP metabolite measurement is a cost-effective way to detect ABT in anti-doping field even when BTHC bags are used for blood storage."


                How many ways do you have to see it?

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                • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  So the athletes were lied to? WADA LABs are screwed and the athletes can do whatever they want? Is that what you are saying?


                  Here is a quote from WADA to test DEHP and non-DEHP bags:
                  "CONCLUSION: Hepcidin quantification and urinary DEHP metabolite measurement is a cost-effective way to detect ABT in anti-doping field even when BTHC bags are used for blood storage."


                  How many ways do you have to see it?
                  Once again, this is a study. You want a quote from WADA? I gave you one.

                  “The Athlete Biological Passport, alone or in combination with non-analytical intelligence, is a proven powerful tool to deter athletes from doping and assert anti-doping rule violations on those who cheat,” USADA officials wrote in the email.

                  And mine is from 2015....not 2011. Now, when are you going to show proof that they use this test that they refused to use back in 2011? I'm still waiting.

                  AND ARE YOU GOING TO PRETEND THAT IT DOESN'T SAY BLOOD STORAGE I've told you a billion times they are checking for a blood transfusion, you moron.

                  Give up.
                  Last edited by travestyny; 01-30-2017, 01:29 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    How many ways do you have to see it?
                    Speaking of how many....how many excuses do you have about why Pacquaio lost?

                    List of people and en****** to blame for Pacquaio’s loss:

                    1. The referee
                    2. The judges
                    3. NSAC
                    4. USADA
                    5. The DCO
                    6. The The****utic Use Exemptions Committee
                    7. The Specific Gravity Test
                    8. The WADA Lab
                    9. WADA (?)
                    10. Pacquaio’s non-injured shoulder
                    11. The City of Las Vegas

                    That’s a whole lot of excuses. Are there any more?


                    You are pathetic.

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                    • Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                      Once again, this is a study. You want a quote from WADA? I gave you one.

                      “The Athlete Biological Passport, alone or in combination with non-analytical intelligence, is a proven powerful tool to deter athletes from doping and assert anti-doping rule violations on those who cheat,” USADA officials wrote in the email.

                      And mine is from 2015....not 2011. Now, when are you going to show proof that they use this test that they refused to use back in 2011? I'm still waiting.

                      AND ARE YOU GOING TO PRETEND THAT IT DOESN'T SAY BLOOD STORAGE I've told you a billion times they are checking for a blood transfusion, you moron.

                      Give up.
                      Like I said, these guys met with USADA.

                      So they must be all morons or its YOU!!!!
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                      Roan Jucao
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                      aliAQUINTA DamonMartin USAntidoping UFC they was here at ATT and we argue with them. So they clearly said it isn't allowed anymore!

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                      Robert Whiteford
                      ✔ ‎@Flyinjudoka

                      USADA meeting @AmericanTopTeam today UFC fighters CANT USE IV AFTER MAKING WEIGHT,whole lot of fighters will be moving weight classes#USADA


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                      Robert Whiteford
                      ✔ ‎@Flyinjudoka

                      The trace from the plastic bag will be in your system,this could end up being more dangerous to guys that dnt know

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                      Anthony Birchak was interviewed
                      The way they check it is plasticides are in your urine. Basically, whatever residue is on the inside of the plastic IV bag, drains into the solution, and you p*ss
                      those chemicals out. That’s how they see if you’ve been using an IV.”

                      "but what they were also saying is that they notice that there is also more than 50ml or more out of an IV back of saline that is what dilutes your ..... "

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