Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: In The Eyes of The People - I Beat Floyd Mayweather

[b00g13man]

In this case its like telling a schizophrenic to not be paranoid.

These people are off in the head you gotta know that by now.

They really are.

[Zaroku]

Yes!!! They really are!! I pretty much dropped out of these type of speculative threads filled with conspiracy theorists.

Floyd won. Fight over. Going on two years and the t@rds are still going strong. They can't move on from 5/2.

There is no pending investigation, it is over.

As much time as they have spent writing about these topics and wild speculation, they could have build a small house from scratch.

[travestyny]

Again with this Partial?
- That means that it was not sufficient!

Is it your contention that he gave a partial sample of PED laced urine, and the bad substances somehow just disappeared simply because it was a partial sample?

You really have to stop insulting the scientists, doctors, and lab technicians who know much more about anti-doping than you do.

It's been over for quite some time now. If you are still worried about it, you have some options.

1. Contact Pacquiao's team and tell them you have some evidence, since this team obviously isnt' as smart as you. You are the best doctor, anti-doping expert, investigator, all of that (in your own warped mind). Go help out your boy.

2. Seek professional help. You may be an expert in something, but it's quite clear that you are not an expert in anything regarding this matter.

[Rome-By-Ko]

This can't be serious??The sad delusional people I guess lmao..

[ADP02]

In this case its like telling a schizophrenic to not be paranoid.

These people are off in the head you gotta know that by now.

You went on and on and SIGed like 5 statements on how you hate CWs. Did you move on? Oh wait, you did once your hero was doing CWs too. Then it was OK to do CWs!

[ADP02]

Yes!!! They really are!! I pretty much dropped out of these type of speculative threads filled with conspiracy theorists.

Floyd won. Fight over. Going on two years and the t@rds are still going strong. They can't move on from 5/2.

There is no pending investigation, it is over.

As much time as they have spent writing about these topics and wild speculation, they could have build a small house from scratch.

Reason why there were no investigations can be summed up right here by the group that Floyd paid off:

Travis Tygart INTERVIEW ON IVs


"WE DECIDE WHO TO INVESTIGATE AND WHO TO NOT."

[Zaroku]

Reason why there were no investigations can be summed up right here by the group that Floyd paid off:

Travis Tygart INTERVIEW ON IVs


"WE DECIDE WHO TO INVESTIGATE AND WHO TO NOT."

Not familiar with Travis. I think PAClost because Floyd fought a better fight. Plus, the so called PAC shoulder injury, coupled with PAC talking to God contributed to pac's defeat.

[ADP02]

You read wrong ..... DEFLECTOR!!!

Still to this day you cannot defend:
I, Floyd, used banned IV because:
==> I gave urine,
==> I gave <1 tbsp. blood 10 days before and
==> Did a little exercise the day before

You know very well that WADA spokesperson was generalizing and NOT discussing Floyd's case!!!!

Of course there can be a RETRO TUE given but NOT in those circumstances!!!! Was Floyd in some kind of serious situation where he had to have this IV? Or was it for some other reasons?

Floyd was on weight from 30 days out and admitted to making weight EASILY for a decade including in the video he states it was NOT a weight issue.

It was because of giving urine, ......

Right after getting an IV, Floyd boasts on how he has an advantage over others who dehydrate themselves 20-30lbs and need to rehydrate themselves while he is fresh, that makes sense to you?

I bet none of that was stated during the TUEC/WADA documentation. I'm sure that Floyd's vitals being normal was not brought up. That Floyd drank enough to rehydrate himself after the weigh in. That he makes weight easily. Floyd's pre-fight form had nothing about dehydration. That he had a physical done by NSAC ..... YET NO INVESTIGATION TO CHECK ALL THAT UP??????!!!!

"I'm not one particular fighter that has drained himself 20 or 30 pounds. I'm a fighter that walks around at 150, 148... I'm extremely happy with everything..."

Is it your contention that he gave a partial sample of PED laced urine, and the bad substances somehow just disappeared simply because it was a partial sample?

You really have to stop insulting the scientists, doctors, and lab technicians who know much more about anti-doping than you do.

It's been over for quite some time now. If you are still worried about it, you have some options.

1. Contact Pacquiao's team and tell them you have some evidence, since this team obviously isnt' as smart as you. You are the best doctor, anti-doping expert, investigator, all of that (in your own warped mind). Go help out your boy.

2. Seek professional help. You may be an expert in something, but it's quite clear that you are not an expert in anything regarding this matter.

I told you:
- Floyd delayed in providing his urine sample. So the delay in itself could have been enough to make sure that even what was in those drops of urine beforehand would be below the threshold if he were micro-dosing, for example.

- If the delay didn't do the trick, as you saw from studies, levels of substances begin to drop BEFORE they hit the SG threshold. So with all that drinking, that could have been enough.

- Floyd didn't want to take any chances. He had to delay some more and get that IV that would have sealed the deal. The drops of urine beforehand would be getting diluted once its mixed in with the diluted urine that followed.

The above was more than likely Dr Alex Ariza's idea and that is why Floyd thanked Dr Alex Ariza. Well, if you use your head, it couldn't have been for any other reason. Why? If I was Floyd, the last person I would be thanking is Ariza if Floyd was truly severally dehydrated. That was Ariza's job. That is, to be sure that Floyd is not so severely dehydrated that he needs an IV.

As far as we know (since TUEs can be hidden from us knowing), this was supposedly the first time Floyd needed an IV .... and Dr Alex Ariza screws up BIG TIME yet Floyd thanks him?

Now take into consideration the truck loads of info that we have on Floyd just before getting that IV and what he says just after in that video (Floyd admits he has an advantage since he doesn't need to dehydrate his body like others do) its an open and shut case. Floyd's dehydration could NOT have been severe and WADA states that you can rehydrate and must rehydrate orally NOT by way of an IV:


USADA/WADA
ARE IVs BETTER THAN ORAL REHYDRATION FOR PERFORMANCE? 
Convincing research to support IV fluid administration prior to competition for performance enhancement, rehydration, dehydration prevention, or muscle cramp prevention does not exist.  Current studies do not support the use of IV fluids for rehydration when an athlete can tolerate oral fluids.

It must be understood that the use of [B][I]IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature.

Let me know who thinks that Floyd's dehydration was worse than moderate dehydration? Go do a poll or go to your thunderdome and ask,..... you will lose badly!!!

Finally, this is USADA's/Floyd's version of the story. So who knows what they covered up or what they said to BS that Floyd's dehydration needed an IV to correct severe dehydration and as we BOTH know, is BS.

Still to this day you cannot defend:
I, Floyd, used banned IV because:
==> I gave urine,
==> I gave <1 tbsp. blood 10 days before and
==> Did a little exercise the day before



.

[ADP02]

Not familiar with Travis. I think PAClost because Floyd fought a better fight. Plus, the so called PAC shoulder injury, coupled with PAC talking to God contributed to pac's defeat.

There was an interview with this Travis dude just a bit after the FLoyd IV scandal came up. He was downplaying this IV scandal and stating that its not a big deal to get an IV, .... yet he was going to meet with athletes telling them that they can no longer use an IV if they dehydrated themselves 20-30lbs .... and that they should more than likely be in another division ...

So there are 2 rules. One for Floyd, who technically wasn't even dehydrated by the time he got that IV (he drank after the weigh-in)

and another for those poor dudes that need to rehydrate back up 20-30lbs.


While I do not totally disagree with that some of these guys need to be in another division but saying that when they had Floyd get a RETRO TUE when he didn't need it .... total BS. Why doesn't he tell those others the same thing? You know.

"You should all apply for a RETRO TUE .... I will give it to all of you! Not just Floyd"

[travestyny]

I told you:
- Floyd delayed in providing his urine sample. So the delay in itself could have been enough to make sure that even what was in those drops of urine beforehand would be below the threshold if he were micro-dosing, for example.

- If the delay didn't do the trick, as you saw from studies, levels of substances begin to drop BEFORE they hit the SG threshold. So with all that drinking, that could have been enough.

- Floyd didn't want to take any chances. He had to delay some more and get that IV that would have sealed the deal. The drops of urine beforehand would be getting diluted once its mixed in with the diluted urine that followed.

The above was more than likely Dr Alex Ariza's idea and that is why Floyd thanked Dr Alex Ariza. Well, if you use your head, it couldn't have been for any other reason. Why? If I was Floyd, the last person I would be thanking is Ariza if Floyd was truly severally dehydrated. That was Ariza's job. That is, to be sure that Floyd is not so severely dehydrated that he needs an IV.

As far as we know (since TUEs can be hidden from us knowing), this was supposedly the first time Floyd needed an IV .... and Dr Alex Ariza screws up BIG TIME yet Floyd thanks him?

Now take into consideration the truck loads of info that we have on Floyd just before getting that IV and what he says just after in that video (Floyd admits he has an advantage since he doesn't need to dehydrate his body like others do) its an open and shut case. Floyd's dehydration could NOT have been severe and WADA states that you can rehydrate and must rehydrate orally NOT by way of an IV:


USADA/WADA
ARE IVs BETTER THAN ORAL REHYDRATION FOR PERFORMANCE? 
Convincing research to support IV fluid administration prior to competition for performance enhancement, rehydration, dehydration prevention, or muscle cramp prevention does not exist.  Current studies do not support the use of IV fluids for rehydration when an athlete can tolerate oral fluids.

It must be understood that the use of [B][I]IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature.

Let me know who thinks that Floyd's dehydration was worse than moderate dehydration? Go do a poll or go to your thunderdome and ask,..... you will lose badly!!!

Finally, this is USADA's/Floyd's version of the story. So who knows what they covered up or what they said to BS that Floyd's dehydration needed an IV to correct severe dehydration and as we BOTH know, is BS.

Still to this day you cannot defend:
I, Floyd, used banned IV because:
==> I gave urine,
==> I gave <1 tbsp. blood 10 days before and
==> Did a little exercise the day before



.

1. Why would you assume that the first partial sample came after the delay? Oh, because you think it fits your moronic speculation that he was microdosing up until the day before the fight.

2. It's such a big deal that USADA decides whom to investigate. Really? Who the hell do you think would decide??? Just as WADA decides which case to review, and WADA has all the paperwork on this case.

Once again, give up or go write to Pacquiao. Your obsession isn't healthy.