Comments Thread For: Andre Ward: I Don't Have To Fight Anymore, I Accomplished Everything

[Kigali]

nothing to see here, this is just Andre posturing for leverage during negotiations. but NSB has already eaten this crap up...gullible fools the lot of you

We finally agree on something.

[siablo14]

I'd say Andre is just posturing for negotiations except he even brought up how he was going to pray with his wife for guidance about what to do... would he really bring prayer and his family into a negotiating tactic? That just seems so fake and two-faced...

Oh, I forgot. It's Andre Ward, so I guess it's possible. Still, there seems to be a ring of truth to this. Ward is not excited about fighting Kovalev again after taking so many hard shots and losing the fight. That much is clear.

If Ward retires, he is a legend!

In his own mind... only there.

Ward still does not have a legitimate victory over a prime A-level fighter his whole career, so he can't say he's accomplished everything. Fighters who accomplish everything have multiple wins over prime A-level fighters. Some have double digit ones. Ward has ZERO. As his own trainer said, Ward drained and "scaled down" to 168 for most of his prime to fight smaller guys, in the weakest division in boxing. He fought slow, overrated and/or past prime B-level fighters like Abraham, Kessler, and Froch, tailor made for his style. To really go down as a legend, he needed to actually compete in his natural weight class, 175, and beat actual high level athletes like himself, in a weight class with real talent. If Ward had gone through Kovalev, Stevenson, and Beterbiev, and cleaned out his natural division the way GGG is doing at 160, then Ward could go down as a legend. But he already tripped up at the first hurdle getting beaten by Kovalev, and now he's already talking about retiring.

Legend lol? Accomplished everything? Not even close. What kind of yes men do some of these fighters have that they can have 31 fights, 30 of them at a "scaled down" weight class below their natural, 30 of them against subpar opposition, but then they think they've "accomplished everything"? Bro if I didn't know better I'd say Ward was still 25 just starting his career, because that's how many fights he has, and that's the level of opposition he's fought outside of Kovalev. He's still in his prime years, and he wasted like 4 of them in the court room, so effectively he's 27 in terms of ring years, not 31, but he thinks he's accomplished everything at 27 lol?

I mean hell, Ward's real goal this whole time was to reach the top of the HBO hype-for-pound list, and he still hasn't even done that despite HBO letting him basically start at #3. He never beat one elite fighter but they already had Ward penciled in for promotion as #1 pound for pound... all he had to do was beat ONE top opponent legitimately and HBO was ready to call him Floyd Mayweather, but Ward STILL couldn't make the top.

In reality, he should be chasing all the top guys like Kovalev offered Stevenson and Beterbiev fights. Ward is younger than Kovalev! And he sat out for years! But you don't hear Kovalev talking about quitting. But assuming Ward won't even do that, at the VERY LEAST you'd think he would want to achieve his goal of headlining HBO's hype-for-pound list, and you know all Ward has to do is actually beat Kovalev, and HBO will put him there.

I mean isn't that crazy? This has been Ward's major goal for years. And because he's HBO darling, all he has to do is beat one guy. BUT HE STILL MIGHT BACK OUT! HBO is making it as easy as possible for Ward to achieve his goal, and Ward is still considering backing out. It's crazy man. THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE NO FANS ANDRE! NOT RACE, NOT DOUBLE STANDARDS, THIS!!!!

115-112 Ward.

[siablo14]

When there was doubt in the Castillo and Maidana first fights, even though he clearly won. Mayweather came back and dominated both of them in a rematches.

That will happen with Ward-Kovalev 2.

[BlakBread904]

We finally agree on something.

shyt! abort mission

[Kigali]

shyt! abort mission

hahahahaha

[millcitymauler]

You mean the Floyd that rematched Castillo and Maidana straight away when people questioned the first fights? and he got roughed up in those too but wasn't afraid to get right back in and show he is the better fighter.

I thought Kovalev edged out Ward, and don't agree with how he's handling the fallout, but as it pertains to FMJ, ^^^ this post is right on.

[xhiddenx87]

I just popped in to clean up all the salt that got spilled in this thread..... but problem is, I only bought a bucket

..... does anyone have a dump-truck that I could borrow, a really BIG one?

look a Ward nuthugger!

[therealpugilist]

FmJ has a tough disputed fight with Castillo, he rematches him and wins handily.
RJJ has a tough DQ loss to Griffiin, he rematches and destroys him
Pac has 3 tough fights with JMM and gives him a 4th

Andre Ward faces adversity for the first time in his career and he runs away and threatens retirement..way to go champ, you're a real legend.. Nobody would actually give a fk if you retired anyway...

....just because he never lost doesnt mean he didnt have any adversity in the ring bro....what do you think these guys dont feel pain?

Kov had tough fight with Froch, and Bika....rough customers and he fought through their talent and tactics...just because you see an 0 doesnt mean it was all sweet...you still take your hits.

[H-Tok]

Ward has no business in retiring like that, that's trash BUT to people trying to knock him down, think Joe Calzaghe.

He beats a bum Kessler, Hopkins and washed up Roy Jones than retires. DON'T YOU START!

[Jsmooth9876]

....just because he never lost doesnt mean he didnt have any adversity in the ring bro....what do you think these guys dont feel pain?

Kov had tough fight with Froch, and Bika....rough customers and he fought through their talent and tactics...just because you see an 0 doesnt mean it was all sweet...you still take your hits.

Come on, the guy was young then and took numerous years off. He's hardly been through wars compared to numerous other guys.

If he wants to quit after facing a little adversity then so be it but you want to be an ATG, you take these kind of rematches and win just like numerous other greats have done.