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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #181
    Originally posted by Scipio2009
    Ward beat Kovalev, Andre Ward is the current WBA/IBF/WBO 175lb champion, and Andre Ward won his belts in a close fight (that all three judges saw him nicking over the back half).

    Why is it so hard for the folks involved (and the public at large, for that matter) to stand tall and say "Andre Ward won the fight, but we want the rematch"?

    That simple admission, from Duva, Kovalev, JDJ, Dan Rafael, etc, will go a long way towards the rematch that everyone wants to harp about having to happen.

    Andre Ward is the champion, and should be treated as such in the negotiations.
    Damn, everyone hurt his feeling so they should say something they don't believe to make sure the cry baby honors a contract he already signed. Sounds just about right when it comes to Ward.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #182
      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
      Come on, the guy was young then and took numerous years off. He's hardly been through wars compared to numerous other guys.

      If he wants to quit after facing a little adversity then so be it but you want to be an ATG, you take these kind of rematches and win just like numerous other greats have done.
      if you havent been in the ring how would you know. fights have ebb and flow....being dominant doesnt mean you dont suffer adversity, wear and tear

      YOU GOTTA BE SLOW IF YOU THINK THIS MAN IS GONNA RETIRE WHEN 175 HAS so many good options unlike 168 when he decided to move up

      there is a rematch clause.....also when has ward ever ducked good competition?

      this is a ploy to get more money and to remind duva is the A side....not the first time or last time a fighter will do this

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        #183
        Originally posted by LetOutTheCage
        Calzaghe exited the sport by comfortably beating a washed up RJJ. He didnt simply retire after a debatable win (like Ward is threatening to do). The Hopkins fight was very close and I had Bernard winning it personally but at least Calzaghe fought on for one more fight before retiring. He probably should of had a rematch with Hopkins but I seem to recall the fight being very cagey and not much interest after the first fight. This isnt the case with Kovalev vs Ward.

        Do you honestly believe beating the likes of Miranda, Abraham and Bika etc makes him a first ballot HOF'er? Really?

        And yes not rematching Kovalev will definitely hurt his legacy. Simply put most people had him losing the fight.

        Ward surpassed JC's resume a decade ago, by age 26 he had all those names on his record. He dominated Bika, JC struggled, dominated Kessler, JC struggled even though Kess was injured. JC has struggled not with just Bika, but Reid, Mitchell and other journeyman. There really is no comparison, SOG takes a big wet dump on JC's resume. Especially with how Dawson, Kovalev, and even Smith Jr. have DEMOLISHED JC's career defining W that he arguably lost.

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        • Jsmooth9876
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          #184
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          if you havent been in the ring how would you know. fights have ebb and flow....being dominant doesnt mean you dont suffer adversity, wear and tear

          YOU GOTTA BE SLOW IF YOU THINK THIS MAN IS GONNA RETIRE WHEN 175 HAS so many good options unlike 168 when he decided to move up

          there is a rematch clause.....also when has ward ever ducked good competition?

          this is a ploy to get more money and to remind duva is the A side....not the first time or last time a fighter will do this
          Who was the A side the first time around? Pretty sure Ward got more than double the money and the fight was on the west coast near his fan base. What else can the cry baby want? Maybe he should just get all the money for the next fight seeing as they pulled a whopping 160k PPV sales...

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          • Madison Boxing
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            #185
            Pretty sure i said that kovalev would be his last fight. He was inactive cause he didnt like fighting hard fights, he had to fight kovalev to justify that hbo deal. Ward wont fight again and let me be the first to say, thank god for that. Will go down as arguably the most boring fighter of all time.

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              #186
              Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
              Who was the A side the first time around? Pretty sure Ward got more than double the money and the fight was on the west coast near his fan base. What else can the cry baby want? Maybe he should just get all the money for the next fight seeing as they pulled a whopping 160k PPV sales...
              Kovalev...duh...undefeated championed...unified the belts...was building his reputation and status on HBO.....also an HBO fighter

              HBO would have benefited more if Kovalev won...everyone was pulling for him. Ward was to be his coming out party/opponent. Duva also would have benefitted if kovalev won.

              use your brain.....mr 96k still makes 2 million plus so the money is there. They are prizefighters...they for money....come on man..they dont fight to entertain you or please you.

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                #187
                Originally posted by hitking
                Bruuuhhh. Ward touched some souls around here. Some of these cats are like really BIG MAD. I shouldn't be surprised. I mean, I did live through the Floyd era. Where logic and rational were often absent. And female hysteria was often. But the level of emotional investment some of these cats have in this **** is just crazy to me. I seriously believe I could come home and find my ole lady in bed with another man. And not be as upset and distraught as some of these cats are about a super close, super competitive fight not going in favor of their rooting interest. I mean, being a heterosexual male that has sex on regular basis and all. I just can't relate to some of these cats on here.

                well, it is fkn hilarious to me

                a wise man once said..... life is like a box of chocolates

                well, when the chocolates in the red wrappings are PROVEN to be the best, why would you pick anything else?

                Ward is WELL proven, unquestionably so..... and yet, here we are..... questioning him

                mmmmmmmmm, delicious LMAO

                let them bash Ward, so what..... he will keep doing what he has done his whole career..... step up, take the fight, and let the lessons begin

                it takes a special kind of dumb to bet against him, so that special kind of dumb will need to open the release valve on their tear ducts every now and then..... I am sure you know who/why most of Ward's detractors are, and what their reasoning is

                bashing PROVEN elite REAL-DEAL guys like Mayweather/Ward is nothing but a fools errand..... even if he did punk lil'G in public

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                  #188
                  Originally posted by Gary Coleman
                  Ward got em disturbed around here. Hahaha!

                  Either he gets his money, beats Kova again and retires undefeated or simply walks away and retires undefeated.

                  Either way...

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                    #189
                    Originally posted by xhiddenx87
                    look a Ward nuthugger!

                    look a crybaby



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                      #190
                      Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                      Come on, the guy was young then and took numerous years off. He's hardly been through wars compared to numerous other guys.

                      If he wants to quit after facing a little adversity then so be it but you want to be an ATG, you take these kind of rematches and win just like numerous other greats have done.

                      way to drop knowledge

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