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  • Chollo Vista
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    #41
    Originally posted by larry x..
    Charlo-Williams was a damn good fight at the right time as both are 26..i am just saying chill and let the fighters grow..Thats all
    I get that and what I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with being big on a prospect as your guy with the most potential.

    Just don't go calling him a future ATG and fighter of the decade; that's when it becomes over board.

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    • jmrf4435
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      #42
      The hype is all part of the marketing strategy. Sometimes we fall victim to the smoke and mirror magic show that is boxing.

      154 is just such an odd division. I find it hard to gauge 154 fighters for some reason.They are in between weight classes and sizes

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      • Tom Cruise
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        #43
        Originally posted by Loque-san
        I agree. Julian Williams' comments about Trout and Bundrage bothered me.

        Charlo beat a very good version of Trout. If Williams had fought someone near this level, he would have been better prepared for this fight.
        I think his comments on Bundrage were fair, he was shot and no better than other fighters he or Charlo had fought, but Trout was a legit win and should have been respected.

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        • Hov
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          #44
          Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
          It was close, but a completely different situation.

          Canelo was 21 and very green, Trout was prime and had just beat Cotto.

          Charlo is 26 and Trout was faded and had recently been beat down by Lara.

          We'll find out about Charlo soon (hopefully), beating Williams didn't really prove much.
          Canelo had already had 42 fights bro. That was Charlo's first defense. He got the close win against a tricky veteran southpaw

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          • Chollo Vista
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            #45
            Originally posted by Tom Cruise
            time will tell. You arent supposed to get dropped that bad off a jab.
            Charlo dropped K-9 with that same jab

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            • Tom Cruise
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              #46
              Originally posted by Chollo Vista
              Charlo dropped K-9 with that same jab
              Did Bundrage have a good chin at that stage in his career though?

              Im not sold either way on Williams chin. Im just saying there are surely question marks over it where there werent before.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                Did Bundrage have a good chin at that stage in his career though?

                Im not sold either way on Williams chin. Im just saying there are surely question marks over it where there werent before.
                Yeah, K-9 has never been known as the guy with the rock solid beard.

                But to answer your question, I'm not sure what J-Rock's chin has. But I do know that Charlo can crack and whoever took that uppercut, would've been in serious trouble if not dropped.

                I'd even go as far to say that if Charlo carries that power to 160, the way GGG fights and how he likes to stick his chin out and "let guys hit him", he'd be in trouble against Charlo if he pulled that.

                IDK, we'll see. Either way, I'm excited to find out.

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                  #48
                  Anthony Joshua is the real deal

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                  • LoadedWraps
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by larry x..
                    danny has proven himself over and over again..you must have a short memory..he was literally always the underdog and still won

                    But that doesn't matter if your opposition isn't quality. You've said this yourself before.

                    Outside of Lucas, he hasn't beaten a prime fighter decisively and without a gift decision. Fact.

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                    • Chollo Vista
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DumpkinsPlus5
                      Oh, and Larry. Ignore Chollo, he's "unsure" if Jermall Charlo can beat the super young, unproven, and inexperienced Erickson Lubin
                      If they fight, it'll be in 2018 or 2019.

                      Since you can predict the future and you're sure what will happen in 2018 and 2019, please tell us who else will lose and who will beat who?

                      While you're at it, tell us who wins the following fights:

                      Joshua-Wlad
                      Thurman-Garcia
                      Shabransky-Barrera

                      I don't want to hear you're "not sure", I want to hear your actual picks. Once you make those picks, I'll bump this thread thereafter. I'll be waiting for your reply.

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