Ward isnt certified Hall of famer or BORDERline ATG

[BrometheusBob.]

Dawson was ranked #10 by Ring mag when he fought Ward. So fail there son. Dawson was also a 2.8-to-1 betting underdog. Dawson was fighting at 168 pounds for the first time in over six years.

Fail argument. Fanboyism. Kovalev won in the majorities eyes.

That's not really huge in boxing terms tbh

Lomachenko is as wide as 9/1 to beat Walters for instance

[The Big Dunn]

Come on man say Sven Otke was being considered. They really wouldn't consider his reputation & manner of those wins? HOF needs a reality check then.. If they ignore circumstances & just go on boxrec then that is ******ed.

Look, I can't stop you from pretending this was a robbery. This wasn't Manny/bradley or Whitaker/Ramirez.

It was a close fight that the judges gave to Ward. Some voters also had Ward winning. To compare Ward to Ottke with what he has done is ludicrous.

[1g5a22]

Look, I can't stop you from pretending this was a robbery. This wasn't Manny/bradley or Whitaker/Ramirez.

It was a close fight that the judges gave to Ward. Some voters also had Ward winning. To compare Ward to Ottke with what he has done is ludicrous.

No it was an example to HL a point. Obviously overall i do not think Ward is comparable to Otke..

Just say Sven Otke was being considered. They really wouldn't consider his reputation & manner of those wins? HOF needs a reality check then.. If they ignore circumstances & just go on boxrec then that is ******ed. Sorry.

[The Big Dunn]

No it was an example to HL a point. Obviously overall i do not think Ward is comparable to Otke..

Just say Sven Otke was being considered. They really wouldn't consider his reputation & manner of those wins? HOF needs a reality check then.. If they ignore circumstances & just go on boxrec then that is ******ed. Sorry.

I agree with you for the most part. The problem is you are essentially treating Ward/Kov like it was an egregious decision when it wasn't. I can't see any scenario where a voter, even one that had Kov winning, would hold this decision against Ward.

However you feel about the decision, his performance after getting up from the canvas was that of a HOF'er. I feel he elevated himself no matter what score the judges had.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Triple g is an atg and already a future hof but not andre ward....

[M Bison]

Attendance was 13,310.

According to who lmfao Mr.10k can't sell out a full stadium from reliable sources I've been told upper sections of the stands were closed off, couldn't fill the arena in his home country and couldn't sell out an arena in his home town!
Mr.10k flops so bad lmfao!

[TheCell8]

He's a HOFer not an ATG

[The Big Dunn]

He's a HOFer not an ATG

I agree with this post.

[therealpugilist]

Just saying. In the last fight he showed tremendous heart, but a controversial decision isnt what ATGs and HOF are made of.

you need to change your name bro...your posts and avatar says it all

[pacmanis1]

He's a HOF no doubt. Not an ATG which is a shame because I think that more falls on how his career played out with inactivity. Had he stayed active he has the skills that it's a possibility he could have built a career for himself that maybe could have been considered an ATG career. And that's coming from a guy who will quite vocally claim he is not a fan of Ward.