Ward isnt certified Hall of famer or BORDERline ATG

[Larry the boss]

stop spamming larry. you were the guy who said broner will be the fighter of the decade man.

and now he is a 4 weight champion....with 3 years to go

[TripleGFightFan]

So winning is bad? what about all the atg's and hall of fame fighters WHO LOST, WERE KO'D ETC ETC..

Exactly!...Andre got up and put the systematic beatdown on kov...a lot of all time greats and hall of famers have losses but what Ward did was incredible...showed tremendous heart and focus...them body shots man...

[Mr. Objectivity]

and now he is a 4 weight champion....with 3 years to go

i admire the perseverance on your part. but he will never be fighter of the decade. we can bet on that if you like

[Larry the boss]

dude come on now. Those win at the super middleweight ARE NOT a lock for the HALL of FAME.

[Larry the boss]

i admire the perseverance on your part. but he will never be fighter of the decade. we can bet on that if you like

The guy challenges himself..how can you be mad at that?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

He gets credit for facing a great prime fighter for sure. I'm glad they made this fight happen.

But of course, the controversial ending does taint the win. A rematch should bring about a more clear winner, but who knows?

The record books unfortunately years from now will tell new fans that the better man won, which doesn't reflect reality. Of course, at least, they'll have the video to judge for themselves.

[Mr. Objectivity]

The guy challenges himself..how can you be mad at that?

not mad. just being objective and not being a fan boy. thats all.

[Mr. Objectivity]

He gets credit for facing a great prime fighter for sure. I'm glad they made this fight happen.

But of course, the controversial ending does taint the win. A rematch should bring about a more clear winner, but who knows?

The record books unfortunately years from now will tell new fans that the better man won, which doesn't reflect reality. Of course, at least, they'll have the video to judge for themselves.

this is fair.

you think hes HOF or an ATG right now based on that win doe?

[Tony Trick-Pony]

this is fair.

you think hes HOF or an ATG right now based on that win doe?

No, definitely not. When you bring him up, every idiot on here is going to yell Super Six at you, but the Kessler fight ruined a lot of that IMO. If the fight had been a fair one with at least points being taken away for the fouls, then it could have gone the other way. I notice there was never a rematch either.

I mean, the guy clinches and bends the rules way too much. He's boring to watch. He's low energy. He brings no excitement. He got a gift against Kovalev. I do have to wonder if he didn't have a name going in against Kovalev, would he have gotten the nod? Would anybody even be talking about it or would it have been another defense for Krusher? I think it would have been looked at like the Chilemba fight myself. All in all, he hasn't done much for this sport. There is no doubt.

[b00g13man]

So much salt...