Ward isnt certified Hall of famer or BORDERline ATG

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

On the bright side, this fight got some of these morons to stop crying about May-Pac for the first time in ages.

Thx for this post lol ur right!

[Jewish-Reptile]

Mr.10k can't sell Oracle stadium out

Could hear a pin drop in that empty a$$ arena, no atmosphere.

Dude the entire forum is menstruating that had their been a more vocal Russian crowd Kovalev would have won ! Ward had plenty of fans there and by NSB popular opinion he had the bigger support, hence why all the rectum strainers have strained rectums.

[Madison Boxing]

Proving yourself the unequivocal #1 super-middleweight in a good era certainly makes you a hall of fame fighter.

a good era?!?!?! really?? Think the fight on saturday showed how ****e them super middleweights were when you compare the success ward had against them compared to kovalev.

[New England]

a good era?!?!?! really?? Think the fight on saturday showed how ****e them super middleweights were when you compare the success ward had against them compared to kovalev.

kovalev is a prime pound for pound boxer and he's bigger than ward. you could see it in the ring from where i was sitting, and you can see it on TV.


froch and kessler were very good fighters. i don't think they beat roy jones by any means, but they were servicable guys who would be contenders in any good era, and champions in others. they just happened to box in an era with one of the best pure boxers we have ever seen at 168 who is also a winner, a rough customer, and has a very good chin. that's a tough style, and for that reason you have to favor ward over a lot of the guys who have fought at 168 lbs.

additionall,y 168 is not a historically deep divsiion. you're welcome to name me 20 fighters at 168 with better resumes or ability.


now, at 175 you are talking about a different animal. LHW is a historically deep division with some fo the best fighters ever campainging there for a long time, or for the duration of their carers. moore, tunney, and charles are three of the very best fighters ever. you need to do a hell of a lot more than either fighter has done to sniff an all time list at LHW. if you know anything about boxing you can look through the list of the best LHW and fine genuinely all time level fighters.

[HandsofIron]

He's a hypejob (and I'm not hating here, I'm just being real), I personally think that Bud Crawford is a overall better fighter than Ward and I rank him higher. He's the better boxer, skills, talent, smarts, ring IQ, chin and power. The only thing that is comparable between them is the stamina and the athleticism.

[Madison Boxing]

kovalev is a prime pound for pound boxer and he's bigger than ward. you could see it in the ring from where i was sitting, and you can see it on TV.


froch and kessler were very good fighters. i don't think they beat roy jones by any means, but they were servicable guys who would be contenders in any good era, and champions in others. they just happened to box in an era with one of the best pure boxers we have ever seen at 168 who is also a winner, a rough customer, and has a very good chin. that's a tough style, and for that reason you have to favor ward over a lot of the guys who have fought at 168 lbs.

additionall,y 168 is not a historically deep divsiion. you're welcome to name me 20 fighters at 168 with better resumes or ability.


now, at 175 you are talking about a different animal. LHW is a historically deep division with some fo the best fighters ever campainging there for a long time, or for the duration of their carers. moore, tunney, and charles are three of the very best fighters ever. you need to do a hell of a lot more than either fighter has done to sniff an all time list at LHW. if you know anything about boxing you can look through the list of the best LHW and fine genuinely all time level fighters.

fair enough mate but i still disagree. Its hard to ever know, but from just watching some of them fighters in the super 6 i dont really think they are that great. Just watching froch, i think if he was in a better weight class he'd have got nowhere really, very sloppy fighter.

[New England]

fair enough mate but i still disagree. Its hard to ever know, but from just watching some of them fighters in the super 6 i dont really think they are that great. Just watching froch, i think if he was in a better weight class he'd have got nowhere really, very sloppy fighter.

froch fought everybody and was only really "exposed" once, and that was by a great, great boxer who hand't lost a boxing match in 15 years.

dirrell was fast
abraham and bute could definitely punch
kessler was well rounded, had a great chin, and he was steady as a rock
groves was young and strong

froch could deal with these guys in spite of teh fact that he might not look like he could on paper. the guy is slow? you expect punchers and fast boxers to give him trouble, right? he had the chin and the stamina to weather both kinds of storms. he'd make the tactical adjustments in addition to having the physical makeup required. that's not sometign you can do if you're not a very good fighter.


when froch got hurt he'd get back up
when he fought guys who were faster than he was [outside of ward] he knew how to adjust to the speed and stay on course.
when he was behind agaisnt taylor he pulled off a knockout in teh last 15 seconds of the fight.

froch was a fighter whose accomplishments were greater than the sum of his parts. the guy fought everybody, and only lost twice. once to the best SMW of the era, and another time to kessler, a very solid fighter himself.

[HandsofIron]

froch fought everybody and was only really "exposed" once, and that was by a great, great boxer who hand't lost a boxing match in 15 years.

dirrell was fast
abraham and bute could definitely punch
kessler was well rounded, had a great chin, and he was steady as a rock
groves was young and strong

froch could deal with these guys in spite of teh fact that he might not look like he could on paper. the guy is slow? you expect punchers and fast boxers to give him trouble, right? he had the chin and the stamina to weather both kinds of storms. he'd make the tactical adjustments in addition to having the physical makeup required. that's not sometign you can do if you're not a very good fighter.


when froch got hurt he'd get back up
when he fought guys who were faster than he was [outside of ward] he knew how to adjust to the speed and stay on course.
when he was behind agaisnt taylor he pulled off a knockout in teh last 15 seconds of the fight.

froch was a fighter whose accomplishments were greater than the sum of his parts. the guy fought everybody, and only lost twice. once to the best SMW of the era, and another time to kessler, a very solid fighter himself.

Froch is your stereotypical Euro-Bum. Strong guy but that's pretty much it.

[M Bison]

Dude the entire forum is menstruating that had their been a more vocal Russian crowd Kovalev would have won ! Ward had plenty of fans there and by NSB popular opinion he had the bigger support, hence why all the rectum strainers have strained rectums.

Come to Ibrox stadium, Celtic park and you'll learn what a real atmosphere is that was tame af.

[SafaBoxingFan]

Outstanding resume - Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Kovalev

Also fighters like Brand and Barrera could go onto have decent careers which would make those wins more impressive.

I had Kovalev shading the decision but I could see the argument for Ward, once he rematches him and if he manages to win, there's no arguments about him being a HOF, infact he probably doesn't even need that win.

If he can beat Kov again, GGG, Stevenson, the arguments going to be there for him being one of the best ever