Winner of Ward-Kovalev rank higher than Calzaghe?

[Mr. Objectivity]

Stop being overly dependent on me for your boxing education son

[NYC8224]

Kessler was a damn great win for Joe..who said it wasnt?and who said Hopkins wasnt a good win?

Nobody, but the way people are talking about Calzaghe is like he never fought anybody at all. People still talk about Kovalev beating Hopkins when they defend him or try to pump him up but nobody mentions Calzaghe beating Hopkins when putting him down

[dan_cov]

Yes they would.
Even now I would rank Ward ahead of Joe with The Krusher not too far behind. A win over Ward would put him well ahead of Joe.

[NYC8224]

Seems like everybody beat Mosley lol

[bojangles1987]

now post Joes top wins

Even cutting all of Mayweather's best wins down as much as possible, they're way better than damn near all of Calzaghe's wins.

There's literally nothing Calzaghe ever did that Mayweather didn't do better.

[YellowDragon]

joe calzaghe was a very good fighter but we dont know if he could have been "great" because it took him til the tail end of his career to fight true "elite" level competition...hes really only got two really good wins over kessler and a past prime b-hop...

eubank win was a great name to have on his ledger but chris was not only past his prime but also weight drained in that fight so it dont score the same points as the other two names for me...

[mathed]

Hell nah. Calzaghe was what 46-0, two division champ, fought on both sides of the pond? When Kov wins, he will still need about 15 quality wins in a row to even match Zags. Ward is catching a beating on Sat night so he is out of the Zags convo.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Calzaghe is above Ward it's not even debatable. He beat an undefeated Kessler no controversy, if anyone tells you Ward's second best win over Froch is a better achievement than Calzaghe white washing Hopkins they have an agenda. Jones, Lacy are as good wins if not better than Abraham and Rodriguez.

Does a win over Krusher move him alongside Joe or above him ? No, Calzaghe would have schooled Kovalev.

[Sid-Knee]

Calzaghe:

Reid: very good win.
Veit x2: good wins
Eubank: great win
Kessler: great win
Lacy: great win
Sheika: good win
Mitchell: good win
Brewer: good win
Bika: good win
Hopkins: great win
Jones: good win
Woodhall: good win

Vs

Ward:

Kessler: should have been DQ'd so doesn't count.
Dawson: drained like hell so meant nothing
Abraham: coming off 2 defeats, one very bad against Froch, but still good win.
Bika: had been out for 18 months, but still good win.
Froch: great win

Anyone who thinks Ward is equal or has a better resume needs to go and see a psychologist immediately. You are damaged goods and seriously creepy.

[Larry the boss]

Calzaghe is above Ward it's not even debatable. He beat an undefeated Kessler no controversy, if anyone tells you Ward's second best win over Froch is a better achievement than Calzaghe white washing Hopkins they have an agenda. Jones, Lacy are as good wins if not better than Abraham and Rodriguez.

Does a win over Krusher move him alongside Joe or above him ? No, Calzaghe would have schooled Kovalev.

??? huh..what fight did you watch?