Winner of Ward-Kovalev rank higher than Calzaghe?

[mlac]

you said he was not afraid to travel=LIE!!!

Is his resume better then Wards=NO!!!

In 46 fights did he beat even 6 top 10 contenders=NO!!!!

so please explain how Ward beating Kovalev would not make him greater then Joe when Ward in the Super 6 alone beat more top contenders then Joe did in his entire damn career

If joe was black you would proclaim him to be one of the greatest.

shut the hell up will ya?

[Madison Boxing]

you said he was not afraid to travel=LIE!!!

Is his resume better then Wards=NO!!!

In 46 fights did he beat even 6 top 10 contenders=NO!!!!

so please explain how Ward beating Kovalev would not make him greater then Joe when Ward in the Super 6 alone beat more top contenders then Joe did in his entire damn career

what top contenders? He beat kessler after joe had beat him. he beat bika after joe had beat him. and he fouled to beat both of them. so who else is there? froch by one round? Weight drained dawson? youll probably tell me alex brand was top contender

[Larry the boss]

If joe was black you would proclaim him to be one of the greatest.

shut the hell up will ya?

BostonGuy

can we stop all this damn race baiting please?

[Madison Boxing]

If joe was black you would proclaim him to be one of the greatest.

shut the hell up will ya?

well said ^

[Madison Boxing]

bostonguy

can we stop all this damn race baiting please?

snitch!!!!

[Larry the boss]

what top contenders? He beat kessler after joe had beat him. he beat bika after joe had beat him. and he fouled to beat both of them. so who else is there? froch by one round? Weight drained dawson? youll probably tell me alex brand was top contender

you love trying to discredit this mans wins damn....

Kessler-champ
Abraham-top 10 contender
Rodriguez-top 10 contender
Dawson-champ
Barrera-top 10 contender
Froch-champ


and these are facts no matter how you try to twist them..these are certified facts

[Larry the boss]

snitch!!!!

call me what you want but playing the race card when you cant win a debate is ****** and needs to be stopped

[Mr. Objectivity]

Both...especially Floyd..i would love to hear this

quality of opponents.
"primeness" of an opponent.
dominance of a division
Number of "retirements" to duck opponents/inactivity.

having a zero means absolutely nothing in my book. its smokes and mirror in my opinion.

Calazaghe is severely underated imo. his BHOP win alone is way way better legacy wise compared with Floyds PAC + shane + Baldomir +judah. or a weight draained chad dawkins.

[bojangles1987]

you love trying to discredit this mans wins damn....

Kessler-champ
Abraham-top 10 contender
Rodriguez-top 10 contender
Dawson-champ
Barrera-top 10 contender
Froch-champ


and these are facts no matter how you try to twist them..these are certified facts

Puts in all that work to discredit Ward because he can't list Calzaghe's ranked contenders. So he resorts to ****ting on Ward and irrelevant half-truths or lies like "Joe was a real fighter" and "he didn't foul." He can't even put forth an actual case for Calzaghe that can't be torn down even easier than he does Ward.

[Larry the boss]

Calzaghe spent the vast majority of his career hiding away and fighting bums.

Ward beating Kovalev would move Ward clearly past Calzaghe, if he isn't past Joe already. Whatever criteria you want to go by, he would be better. Joe took on all comers, huh? Ward has beaten more ranked fighters than Calzaghe did, so Ward has taken on all comers more often. He has also beaten all but one of them without breaking a sweat.

Want to go by name value and ignore rankings? Froch, Kessler, Abraham, Bika, and Dawson is a list at 168 that Calzaghe can't match. Add in Kovalev to that and Ward would have arguably the best win at LHW between the two as well. Roy was shot to ****, and he arguably didn't even beat old Hopkins, though I'll give you old Hopkins as a pretty good win. Dawson and Kovalev both whipped his ass as well, but that's okay.

It would be very clear who the greater fighter is if Ward wins this weekend. Calzaghe was a very good fighter and might have beaten Ward, but his actual in-ring accomplishments would not be better. They may not be better right now.

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