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  • Jewish-Reptile
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    #111
    Originally posted by robertzimmerman
    GG's popularity is increasing with each fight, and he'll do over 100k buys.

    He is in a position where he can demand more.

    Canelo isn't making monstrous figures without GG or any other big named opponent, and of course he'll be bothered about how his reputation has been tarnished.
    GGG will never do over 100k buys without Canelo.

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      #112
      Originally posted by HanzGruber
      I'm confused how much are they trying to get? 10 plus some ppv upside sounds like a damn good deal. Canelo got 5 vs cotto right. Gg needs to know his place
      It doesn't matter what Cotto got against Cotto.


      How can it be a damn good deal, when:

      GG is the 'Man' of the division.

      It's his belts that would be on the line.

      The fight could realistically generate $70-80m, if not more.

      Canelo can't earn as much money against anyone else, apart from Manny and Floyd, which is unrealistic.

      ?

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        #113
        Originally posted by Scott. Weiland
        GGG will never do over 100k buys without Canelo.
        He's just done 500,000 against Brook.

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          #114
          Originally posted by robertzimmerman
          It doesn't matter what Cotto got against Cotto.


          How can it be a damn good deal, when:

          GG is the 'Man' of the division.

          It's his belts that would be on the line.

          The fight could realistically generate $70-80m, if not more.

          Canelo can't earn as much money against anyone else, apart from Manny and Floyd, which is unrealistic.

          ?
          Being "the man" doesn't matter. Cotto was lineal and had the pretty green belt. Gg can't earn 10 mil vs anyone ever.. Canelo surely will be able to do that a few times in his career

          This isn't some 2 mil buy ppv fight

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            #115
            the 10 million was offer was in the midst of a purse bid. why people not ****ing realize that purse bid is not the same as an optional fight?

            if this was an optional fight and negotation, ggg is dumb as **** and/or is a ducker.

            but this is purse bid situation, he stayed within the rules and negotiated within his rights. this guy wasnt asking for 50 percent or asking for some crazy ****. he wanted the 25percent that the purse bid will enforce. you guys always say so and so boxer wanted more than he deserved. hes asking for too much. in this situation, the mandatory status gave him a legitimate and factual statement backed by the rules of the commision that he deserves 25percent. if he was not a mandatory, he deserved only what canelo was willing to give him.

            the only way that 10mil offer should have been accepted is if that 10mil => 25percent of the purse bid.

            This negotiation is over. Do you guys think the two ****s will never cross paths again? in 1-2 years time, GGG could be undisputed and Canelo will be fighting in his ****ing division. that means there is no other champ to get a belt from for canelo. that means canelo will be fighting and climbing the ranks of any organization to ultimately lead him to ggg. at which point, every organization will have ggg getting 75/25 in a purse bid situation.

            You might say so what? he doesnt need ggg and he can effectively make money by fighting anybody else. its probably true. but would people really support someone like that? Someone who cannot fight any other MW champ because it might be only ggg as champ, someone who will fight only the low rank just in case he becomes the mandatory, someone who will drop mandatories or those super diamond half champion belts because becoming mandatory means 25/75 split. Canelo can still make money but he will look like the biggest bundle of sticks.

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              #116
              Originally posted by HanzGruber
              Being "the man" doesn't matter. Cotto was lineal and had the pretty green belt. Gg can't earn 10 mil vs anyone ever.. Canelo surely will be able to do that a few times in his career

              This isn't some 2 mil buy ppv fight
              It matters, because when Canelo officially moves up to MW, GG will be the man to fight.

              Who else is he going to fight?

              Unless he fights and beats BJS first, which isn't a given, there'd be nobody of relevance to fight at the weight.

              GG's just earnt $5m against Brook, and a foray into a higher division could certainly give him more than that, especially if he fought someone like DeGale at Wembley. Again, it works both ways. Unless Canelo fights Floyd or Manny, he can't fight for the money that a GG fight would generate.

              It may not generate 2m buys, but I would say it would definitely be between 1-1.5m.

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                #117
                Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                He's just done 500,000 against Brook.
                Lmfao, dude you just went FULL ******, you should never go FULL ******.

                Brook did 500k not GGG.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by robertzimmerman
                  It matters, because when Canelo officially moves up to MW, GG will be the man to fight.

                  Who else is he going to fight?

                  Unless he fights and beats BJS first, which isn't a given, there'd be nobody of relevance to fight at the weight.

                  GG's just earnt $5m against Brook, and a foray into a higher division could certainly give him more than that, especially if he fought someone like DeGale at Wembley. Again, it works both ways. Unless Canelo fights Floyd or Manny, he can't fight for the money that a GG fight would generate.

                  It may not generate 2m buys, but I would say it would definitely be between 1-1.5m.
                  Canelo has Lemiuex and Saunders to face at 160, GBP can offer infinitely more money to Flounders than K2 can and Lemiuex unless you forgot who carries ppv's in Canada is also with GBP.

                  Canelo has options.

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Scott. Weiland
                    Lmfao, dude you just went FULL ******, you should never go FULL ******.

                    Brook did 500k not GGG.
                    Hilarious.

                    You should be on stage.

                    Yeah, Brook did 500,000 on his own. It had nothing to do with GG. Because Brook has a huge following, and he always does huge PPV's, right?

                    How silly of me.

                    Ha!

                    What a clown.

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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Scott. Weiland
                      Canelo has Lemiuex and Saunders to face at 160, GBP can offer infinitely more money to Flounders than K2 can and Lemiuex unless you forgot who carries ppv's in Canada is also with GBP.

                      Canelo has options.
                      Canelo has options, but none of them are great that bring in huge money.

                      Lemieux was considered a bum when GG beat him, so why is he going to be a big relevant fight for Canelo??

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