Why is it when people mention GGG moving up Hagler is brought up?

[soul_survivor]

There was no 168 division when Hagler was fighting...Leonard won the first recognized title there in 1988. Do people even know the history of the sport? Hagler would had had to jump straight to 175(which would have been chasing greatness)

Hagler is brought up because he was a middleweight who faced a string of decent but not great middleweights and who's best wins are a welterweight and a lightweight.

Jumping up from middle to light heavyweight was the norm for many mw champions before hagler. You could relate that to a modern day jump of 160 to 168 like many people propose GGG do.

So it's literally the same scenario.

Oh and in terms of super middle, it didn't magically appear with leonard. It's been an active division in boxing since the 60s and had several champions but it didn't become universally recognised since the early 80s. By the time both the IBF and the WBA had world titles and a long reigning lineal champion too.

Hagler could have moved up to 168 if lhw was too big a jump for.him.

[Lester Tutor]

Lil'g can't do 168 let's be real

Alvarez been doing 147-154 his whole career. 2 weight classes. 155, opponents didn't complain

[hectari]

A better question is how come the same ones demanding ggg move up are the same guys who praise rigondeuax and say 126 pounds is too big a jump for the 122 pound boxer who is inactive and fights journey man, yet brag how he beat guys bigger than him in the ring, they still say he is p4p top three why do he get a pass lol

[LetOutTheCage]

There was no 168 division when Hagler was fighting...Leonard won the first recognized title there in 1988. Do people even know the history of the sport? Hagler would had had to jump straight to 175(which would have been chasing greatness)

Which is what most people on here seem to want GGG to do and fight the winner of Ward vs Kovalev straight off the bat no less.

[b00g13man]

Which is what most people on here seem to want GGG to do and fight the winner of Ward vs Kovalev straight off the bat no less.

Only because he did the same to someone two divisions smaller.

[boxinggod101]

A better question is how come the same ones demanding ggg move up are the same guys who praise rigondeuax and say 126 pounds is too big a jump for the 122 pound boxer who is inactive and fights journey man, yet brag how he beat guys bigger than him in the ring, they still say he is p4p top three why do he get a pass lol

Ur question will be ducked by those GGG hater. Im not even a fan of him but the hate is unreal.

As for OP, well he is being brought up because, well, he didnt moved up and fought smaller guys too.


Is it that hard to understand?

What is funny is Larry made a thread not so long ago asking for GGG to go straight to 175 to fight the winner of Ward-Kov. No double standard huh?
At the sametime I agree that he needs to do something cause guys at 160 are ducking him.

[boxinggod101]

Which is what most people on here seem to want GGG to do and fight the winner of Ward vs Kovalev straight off the bat no less.

Yeah Larry made a thread abt it too. Asking GGG to move up from 160 to 175 to fight the no.1 P4P guy as soon as the fight is done...

What a joke lol

[Eastcoast]

Hopkins tried to move up before he lost tho. He was negotiating a fight with the p4p king roy jones jr at 175.

They just couldn't agree on the money. Hopkins wanted 50/50. Roy wanted 60/40.

People like to conviently leave that part out when making an argument

The RJJ fight was for 168lbs.

Hopkins turned down a 2-fight deal with Showtime to fight Harry Simon then Joe Calzaghe, after his Carl Daniels fight. He stayed with HBO and fought Morrade Hakar.

[SplitSecond]

Saw a picture of that gutneckth or w/e his name is(who's fighting Groves) next to Ggg and thought he waS a cruiserweight, and Groves is bigger than him. Unless you're a juicer or draining, honestly, 154 lb'ers and 160lb'ers are about the same size, 168lb'ers are like 175lb'ers squeezing down.

And though i've said this before, Golovkin doesn't have the speed, style or height to make up for climbing weight. He will just pile on disadvantages with nothing but power and his own intelligence to carry him. That said I rather see him fight Zurdo, degale and jack than nobodies at middleweight. Still think he stops them with his skills and power alone while being at a disadvantage in everything else.

[boxinggod101]

Hopkins tried to move from 160 to 175 to fight the p4p #1 fighter in the world. (Roy jones jr). I guess you wasn't watching boxing back then.

Negotiations failed and hopkins went on to lose to taylor before going to 175 for tarver.

Just some facts and history of the last great middleweight champion trying to do what you laugh at golovkin attempting.

Nobody is asking gennady to do anything that hasn't been tried before, so cut the ****

Relax my man! I know u hate GGG that much and u get excited when the truth is said but breath man.I dont care abt GGG. His resume s*cks and I want him to do something since guys at 160 are running.

I just pointed the double standart. Who talked abt Hopkins there?? Stick to the question. He talked abt Hagler... TF u talking abt? U got all emotional on me man, relax