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  • #41
    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
    What happened in simple: with all the bullocks Haydon fed audiences last year and the sheer lack of viewers or creation of stars, channels have run out of confidence to use up more dates.
    There were plenty of dates but were canceled. Fighters won't accept less than $1 mil per fight.

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    • #42
      Haymon should have waited till Richard was free to promote again and then build up the PBC company with Richard as the face. He was a very smart guy it seemed.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by sicko View Post
        Thought people wanted PBC to fail and go away right? Now they asking "What Is Going On With PBC?"

        I don't think anything is going on, Olympics may have ruined Summer Plans for them. Too late to setup fights in October, November is Full so maybe a December return with hopefully some big match ups just have to wait and see but I thought people would be HAPPY that it hasn't been much PBC lately base on the way some bash it
        Off topic, but saw your gif. When is Yarde going to step up his level of opposition from bums to cab drivers? His opponent's combined record so far is like 25 wins against 183 losses

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        • #44
          Originally posted by The Akbar One View Post
          Off topic, but saw your gif. When is Yarde going to step up his level of opposition from bums to cab drivers? His opponent's combined record so far is like 25 wins against 183 losses
          Only been Pro for a Year and only has 8 Pro Fights it is going to be awhile. This is not a smaller division he fights at Light Heavyweight so I don't see them rushing him along and they shouldn't not when fighting this high in weight

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          • #45
            Originally posted by original zero View Post
            none of us know how much money haymon has left, but he has over a dozen world champions and has showtime locked up by the balls.

            arum has NOTHING.

            oscar has ONE FIGHTER.


            haymon is in the driver's seat.
            When was the last showtime show and the next one?

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            • #46
              Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
              No. Haymon had $434 million to burn and the others didn't. Give the same huge amount to Arum or Oscar, plus PBC fighters and both would have made more quality fights than Haymon. $434 million in one year is not what you call "dried up."
              Actually Haymon had close to $1 Billion to burn.... not a mere $434 million.

              His hedge fund/mutual fund buddy that now works for him steered plenty of capital to PBC and Haymon from investors who had no freaking clue what PBC even was.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Sweet Jones View Post
                Methinks your anger is very much misguided here.

                Perhaps you should take a step back and ask yourself why no investor has ever given that type of war chest nor has any network committed that amount of TV time to any plan those two nor any other entity in boxing has ever attempted.

                Instead of sitting around waiting to mindlessly suck off the annual HBO/SHO boxing budget announcement teat, Haymon went out and found someone willing to put up REAL money and networks to commit PRIMETIME slots to this sport.
                This is actually pure BS....

                The money came primarily from what we can see from a number of Mutual Funds, whose fund manager was Haymon's buddy.

                That fund manager invested in PBC even though that investment was borderline questionable.

                Now that fund manager works for Haymon. Go figure.

                So only 1 guy made the decision to invest... unfortunately he controlled a huge warchest of other investor's capital.

                I don't see any other mutual funds investing in Haymon or PBC, especially those that found PBC and did not have an existing relationship with Haymon.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by original zero View Post
                  But smaller purses and smaller production budgets doesn't change a single thing I said. He still has more champions and more power than ever.

                  Arum still has less power than ever.

                  And Oscar has one fighter.

                  HBO's budget has been cut so much that it's basically the same as Showtime. Haymon controls basically the entire Showtime budget.

                  Arum, Oscar, Roc Nation, K2 and others all have to split the HBO budget.

                  So Haymon is the biggest player and that is clearer than it's ever been.
                  He has more champions, thats it. More champions, that aren't even fighting on a regular basis.

                  Great way to grow a business. Rarely put it out for the paying fans to actually see.

                  Flop.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by sicko View Post
                    Thought people wanted PBC to fail and go away right? Now they asking "What Is Going On With PBC?"

                    I don't think anything is going on, Olympics may have ruined Summer Plans for them. Too late to setup fights in October, November is Full so maybe a December return with hopefully some big match ups just have to wait and see but I thought people would be HAPPY that it hasn't been much PBC lately base on the way some bash it

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                    • #50
                      All the boxing promoters, managers and fighters need to unite...other wise they will all sink.

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