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  • DAWORLDFAMOUSKL
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    #51
    Mos Def Ll Will Go Down As Top 10 And Maybe That Is Underrating Him Did He Or Did He Not Beat Everyone That He Was Suppose To Tyson, Holyfield,klithsko??,rahman, Tua And That Tall Dude That Was A ****ing Bum.

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    • Warrior Spirit
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      #52
      Originally posted by jose
      He never had Lewis hurt at any point in either fight.

      If Micheal Moorer could outbox a "prime" Holyfield what makes you think Lewis couln't do it?

      If Bowe could take 2/3 and KO a "Prime" Holyfield what makes you think Lewis couldn't?

      Evander Holyfield was a tough guy, but he lost more big fights than he won and was far from unbeatable.
      7th round in the second fight, Lewis was hurt bad, go and watch it again.

      Holyfield had tremendous handspeed in his prime and threw great combinations and you cuple that with the fact that Lewis has a subpar chin and no doubt Holyfield stops Lewis.

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      • dino
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        #53
        Originally posted by scap
        Sure Lennox is a very good heavyweight champion but look at his body of work...what good or great fighter has he beaten that was in their respected primes?

        Holyfiled was no where near his prime and LL in a lot of peoples minds lost the second fight. Tyson was so far gone it is not even worth mentioning.

        Maybe Ray Mercer was in his prime but he was probably at the very end of it and I for one think Lennox lost that fight.

        Did he beat Rock in his prime...yeah I guess he did but the best Rahman I saw was the younger Rock the one that fought Tua the first time in the 220's.

        One victory that was huge for Lewis was his win over Razor Ruddock but was Ruddock first off any good? And secondly was he in his prime?
        Ruddock at the time was in the middle of changing styles and trainers and looked very ackward in the ring, the Ruddock that Lewis fought was different then the one Tyson fought.

        Golota? This was a big victory for Lewis as well, I personally thought that Lewis was in real trouble but he easily beat the polish ******...does this count...I don't think so but maybe you do?

        Lewis has been around a long time and he was fighting as a serious contender when Holyfiled was in his prime, Tyson was still a very formidable foe when Lewis was whacking guys out of there and of course the mythical matchup that never came to fruition being the fight with Bowe...

        So I ask all of the members of boxincscene to come up with an argument that puts Lewis in a better light than the one that I portray...too me VK is in his prime and if he were to come back and ko VK that woould be the only guy woth mentioning on LL's resume that he beat in his prime.

        Lennox Lewis, certainly a good heavyweight Champ, but in Holyfield's class...no ****ing way!

        ur a idiot...lewis would beat holyfield and tyson at any point in his carrer..and bowe also

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        • AintGottaClue
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          #54
          Originally posted by dino
          ur a idiot...lewis would beat holyfield and tyson at any point in his carrer..and bowe also


          umm no that is wrong i dont know what else to say its just not true

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          • AintGottaClue
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            #55
            Originally posted by dino
            ur a idiot...lewis would beat holyfield and tyson at any point in his carrer..and bowe also

            im srry but this is the most idiotic and absrud post ever, i mean i know i have said ****** things in the past and present on this board but i mean this takes the cake i cant expalin the brainlessness behind this post, peopel like you r why i hate lennox lewis

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            • scap
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              #56
              Originally posted by dino
              ur a idiot...lewis would beat holyfield and tyson at any point in his carrer..and bowe also
              Maybe you need to watch the 220 pound version of Lewis who was completed dominated by Frank Bruno before he caught Bruno with a right when Bruno was trying to finish him...this Lewis was nothing special at all...your right I am an idiot there is no question!

              It is nice to know there are people like you out there, your one of the most well skilled posters on this board and I want you to know that if you ever outgrow boxingscene and one day leave that will spell the end for me as well...remember I love you and you just keep on keepin on...

              Love Scap

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              • Sir_Jose
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                #57
                I love how this entire thread you have complained about Lewis not fighting anyone in there primes, but when it comes time to match Lewis up against Tyson and Holyfield you choose the Lewis who fought Frank Bruno.

                Fact is everyone looks bad at certian points. How did Holyfield look against Bert Cooper? or Tyson against Douglas?

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                • Cletus Funk
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jose
                  I love how this entire thread you have complained about Lewis not fighting anyone in there primes, but when it comes time to match Lewis up against Tyson and Holyfield you choose the Lewis who fought Frank Bruno.

                  Fact is everyone looks bad at certian points. How did Holyfield look against Bert Cooper? or Tyson against Douglas?
                  You're correct Jose and this is obviously just a LL haters thread. I've never particularly liked him but Lewis was nowhere near as accomplished a fighter when he faced Bruno as he was in his prime (I was cheering for Bruno to smash his face in). He was the dominant force in his era and would have done to Holyfield what Bowe did but even more so if they had met when Holyfield was truly in his prime. Some of the names being put above him in the all time ratings on this thread are laughable. Compare their dominance and quality of opposition that they beat to Lewis' and it's not even close. He's easily worth a place in the top 10-15, especially when you compare his achievements to someone like Schmelling or Bowe. IMO his record is better than Hopkins or Tzsyu's in terms of opposition yet I don't see many people berating them when they're mentioned as all time greats.

                  I can't believe I'm defending him because I do think he's a total **** but some of the comments on this thread are ****ing ridiculous.

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                  • scap
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by jose
                    I love how this entire thread you have complained about Lewis not fighting anyone in there primes, but when it comes time to match Lewis up against Tyson and Holyfield you choose the Lewis who fought Frank Bruno.

                    Fact is everyone looks bad at certian points. How did Holyfield look against Bert Cooper? or Tyson against Douglas?
                    You idiot Jose the guy that I was speaking with said Lewis at any stage in his career could beat Tyson, Holy, or Bowe...I don't care how much love you have for Lewis the Lewis against Bruno was a different fighter, same goes for when he fought Biggs, or Tucker and a lot of other guys...that Lewis is not the great LEwis and he was still a few years out of his prime that is what I was pointing out...cmon wheres your brain Jose...get the nut out of your eye, ****in spanish brit...

                    Do you think the young Lennox, the one that weighed in the 220's could have beaten a prime Holy or a prime Tyson? Well do you?
                    That was the argument!

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                    • Gemini531
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jose
                      I love how this entire thread you have complained about Lewis not fighting anyone in there primes, but when it comes time to match Lewis up against Tyson and Holyfield you choose the Lewis who fought Frank Bruno.

                      Fact is everyone looks bad at certian points. How did Holyfield look against Bert Cooper? or Tyson against Douglas?
                      Then take everyone when they look thier best. Lewis and Holyfield are very boring and dont look like champions in comparison to Tyson,Ali,Frazier, and Foreman.

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