Lennox good but not great!

[AIR_KENG]

always talking about fighter primes, the bottomline is they fade out, plain and simple...

[stylepts2]

thanks for pointing out the obvious sherlock. maybe you can tell me if dog**** stinks.

[AIR_KENG]

thanks for pointing out the obvious sherlock. maybe you can tell me if dog**** stinks.

glad i could help, not to many dumbass around here... good to have you...

[stylepts2]

i thought you needed company. but changing my mind now that i see you have some ********** attraction to pac.

[AIR_KENG]

i thought you needed company. but changing my mind now that i see you have some ********** attraction to pac.

haha! good one... i'll tell you when im finished so you could go next, mwahahaha...

[marvdave]

I think Lewis is in the top 15 ................................ of champions that give up belts rather than defend their titles.

If he fought Tyson and Grant, and defended his titles against Byrd, and Ruiz then I would say top 20. He had plenty of time to fight all these guys, yet chose to fight only once a year and trash the IBF and WBA belts. He could have had his money, pleased the mob, and defended his titles.

Having said that, he doesn't belong in the same category as a champion that respects what the "championship title" represents.

broken record

[scap]

In my post in Opinion Central, I said why I think LL ranks over Holy. Here's the deal - when I look at all the heavies Holy beat and compare them to the ones LL beat, LL wins. The only guys I can really give Holy props for beating are Bowe (who in turn beat him twice), Tyson (who wasn't in his prime any more), and maybe Mercer. LL beat prime Golota, prime Morrison, prime Ruddock, prime Tua, prime Briggs, prime Klitschko and a past prime Holy, Mercer and Tyson. That's a veritable murderer's row he took out.

Yeah, you can say he was trouble in this fight or that fight (and btw, Holy was in big trouble in many of the fights he won), but the point is, he won. So head to head, based on record, I gotta give Lewis the nod over Holy. And frankly, I think he's a top 10 heavy based on that record too.

Again for the third ****ing time Tua was no where near his prime against Lennox...watch Tua fight Rock the first time and Ike...that was Tua at his best...Tua was a shell of himself when he finally got too fight LEwis which was years later...look at the weight differences and then watch the young tua and then come back here and tell me that LL fought Tua in his prime.

I don't think a lot of people have ever even seen Tua at his best 220's...so before telling me that LL fought a guy that was in his prime make sure you have seen the guy in his prime, thank you.

[Toller]

At the end of the day you can pick most people's records apart, even greats - whether it be Lewis, Holyfield, Tyson or Bowe. Listing a guys fights and criticising every one of them just stinks of hate if you ask me.

[marvdave]

Again for the third ****ing time Tua was no where near his prime against Lennox...watch Tua fight Rock the first time and Ike...that was Tua at his best...Tua was a shell of himself when he finally got too fight LEwis which was years later...look at the weight differences and then watch the young tua and then come back here and tell me that LL fought Tua in his prime.

I don't think a lot of people have ever even seen Tua at his best 220's...so before telling me that LL fought a guy that was in his prime make sure you have seen the guy in his prime, thank you.

I've all of Tua's fights that were available on tv. It's funny how a loss drops someone from their prime.

[scap]

I've all of Tua's fights that were available on tv. It's funny how a loss drops someone from their prime.

a loss certainly does not have to be the deciding factor...if you have his fights on tape then you tell me flat out that the DAvid Tua that fight Ike Ibeabuchi was the same DAvid Tua that fought LEnnox LEwis...

In my mind he was a shell of himself...he had a very short prime based upon his lack of training, he had no business being 245 against LL...oh and Tua lost against Ike and I said that was his prime...a loss (I scored the fight a draw and could have easily given the fight to Tuaman but I admit there was a bias on my part for the up and coming president.)