Holyfield boring? He was the most consistently exciting heavyweight of the 90's.
Lennox good but not great!
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ill put lennox lewis in the top 15 or top 20 greatest HWs of all time, but i will never put him in the top 10 HWs of all time.Comment
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First off a prime Holyfield would not murder Lewis and Lewis is top 10 no dought. If u can name 9 heavys who would be favored over Lewis is his prime i would be shocked. I can think of a few ALi, Joe Louis, and maybe Marciano, and Foreman. For the record i dont care how hard the rock hit he would be Murdered by Lewis, he would Jab the rock to death before putting him to sleep. (Lewis is just to big for him the rock had a 68 inch reach and stood 5-10 1/4)
Lewis Profile
Stands 6'5"
Reach 84"
weight 240
Pro record 41-2-1
Amateur Record 75-7 (54 kos)
In 1984 knocked out Rid**** Bowe
for Gold Medal.Comment
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IBRO historians ranked Lewis in the top 10 greatest heavy list. Of course these are boxing people with long view of history, not a pack of punks posing on a message board.Comment
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Originally posted by FloydmayweatherFirst off a prime Holyfield would not murder Lewis and Lewis is top 10 no dought. If u can name 9 heavys who would be favored over Lewis is his prime i would be shocked. I can think of a few ALi, Joe Louis, and maybe Marciano, and Foreman. For the record i dont care how hard the rock hit he would be Murdered by Lewis, he would Jab the rock to death before putting him to sleep. (Lewis is just to big for him the rock had a 68 inch reach and stood 5-10 1/4)
Lewis Profile
Stands 6'5"
Reach 84"
weight 240
Pro record 41-2-1
Amateur Record 75-7 (54 kos)
In 1984 knocked out Rid**** Bowe
for Gold Medal.
1. Joe Louis KO
2. Muhammad Ali UD
3. Rocky Marciano KO
4. 1974 George Foreman KO
5. Jack Johnson UD
6. Jack Dempsey KO
7. Jim Jeffries (yes, i said Jim Jeffries) KO
8. Vitali Klitschko TKO
9. 1988 Mike Tyson KO
if you want me to explain my answers, i will.Comment
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I think everyone is missing the boat as to how they rank the top HW's...
You need to rank them just as the same as you rank todays p4p list.
For example Ezzard Charles p4p is twice the fighter that LL is but would he beat LL straight up...probably not.
Is Ezzard a greater champ, absolutely.
Think of it as a p4p not who would beat who, things are far to different no as opposed to then.Comment
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Originally posted by TheEvilSaintill try to name 9 fighters who could beat lennox lewis:
1. Joe Louis KO
2. Muhammad Ali UD
3. Rocky Marciano KO
4. 1974 George Foreman KO
5. Jack Johnson UD
6. Jack Dempsey KO
7. Jim Jeffries (yes, i said Jim Jeffries) KO
8. Vitali Klitschko TKO
9. 1988 Mike Tyson KO
if you want me to explain my answers, i will.
Thats actually not a bad list but some of them are just ridulous. Jim Jeffries thats a joke and Vitali he could not even beat an out of shape Lennox. Marcaino is way to small regardless of his record and power. I also dont think Jack Johnoson or Dempsey have a chance in hell. I agree with Louis, ALi and the 1988 Mike Tyson but even thats a toss up.Comment
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Originally posted by FloydmayweatherThats actually not a bad list but some of them are just ridulous. Jim Jeffries thats a joke and Vitali he could not even beat an out of shape Lennox. Marcaino is way to small regardless of his record and power. I also dont think Jack Johnoson or Dempsey have a chance in hell. I agree with Louis, ALi and the 1988 Mike Tyson but even thats a toss up.
MAn, you didnt listen to a word I said.Comment
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Exactly. You can't really do a "who'd beat who" when comparing these champions because conditions and rules change with each passing era. Would these fights take place in the era of the modern fighter or the old timer? 20 rounds or 15 rounds or 12? What sized gloves? There are no right or wrong answers to these questions.
It's just as unfair to make Lennox Lewis fight Jack Johnson in a 20 round fight with small gloves as it is to have Johnson fight Lewis with big padded gloves for only 12 rounds. It's impossible to find a neutral "fair" ground to hold these fantasy fights in.
When ranking champions you have to go by how they fared in their own era, the talent of their opposition, and the talent and ability they displayed against that opposition.Comment
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