Chocolatito is Not Top 5 P4P

[Tom Cruise]

I disagree.... defense is what makes p4p fighters a cut above the rest. Floyd, Ward, Hopkins, Crawford, Loma, Jones, what do they do, they hit and don't get hit! They stick and move, Bob and weave, use all the skills that boxers are suppose to learn and master. In my opinion defense is absolutely what makes the best fighters top P4P

P4P is just about who you think is the best fighter in the world regardless of weight, nothing to do with certain styles or ways of fighting.

His D only really looked bad after he gassed last night to be honest. Before that Cuadras was struggling to land cleanly at all, despite RG being in front of him the majority of the time

[Code Red]

Why do people act as if he moved up some extreme amount in weight? He's moving up two to three lbs at a time, absolute nonsense. Their are guys in higher weight classes,that give up more than that, while fighting guys in their same division.

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Floyd moved 4 weight classes, from 130 - 154, that's 24 lbs. Gonzalez has barely gone up 10!

[Code Red]

P4P is just about who you think is the best fighter in the world regardless of weight, nothing to do with certain styles or ways of fighting.

His D only really looked bad after he gassed last night to be honest. Before that Cuadras was struggling to land cleanly at all, despite RG being in front of him the majority of the time

Cuadras is simply sloppy himself, he loops punches, don't set his feet, flails, has no right hand, crosses his footing etc....considering all the technical mistakes Cuadras made Gonzalez should of taken advantage of it more! Gonzalez defense is not responsible for Cuadras lack of accuracy, he can't punch straight when he constantly retreating anyway!

[Tom Cruise]

Why do people act as if he moved up some extreme amount in weight? He's moving up two to three lbs at a time, absolute nonsense. Their are guys in higher weight classes,that give up more than that, while fighting guys in their same division.

He's moved up more in physical weight than Kovalev (0lbs), Ward (7lbs), GGG (0lbs), Lomachenko (4lbs), Crawford (5lbs), Alvarez (8lbs) etc etc. And thats despite the difference being a bigger % of his overall weight.

Maybe the individual weight jumps arent that impressive in comparison, but he still in his 4th weight class. If he can beat Inuoe it will be his 3rd lineal championship.

We arent comparing him to P4P fighters of the past, only the guys in the top 10 now.

[Tom Cruise]

Cuadras is simply sloppy himself, he loops punches, don't set his feet, flails, has no right hand, crosses his footing etc....considering all the technical mistakes Cuadras made Gonzalez should of taken advantage of it more! Gonzalez defense is not responsible for Cuadras lack of accuracy, he can't punch straight when he constantly retreating anyway!

Cuadras is very skilled and naturally much larger, that is clear to see.

This is looking like a troll thread tbh

[Luilun]

Gonzalez has not just looked bad in this fight but like his last 3, he has been exposed and shown to be a limited come forward brawler in several contest. One thing a P4P #1 is suppose to be able to do is make adjustments, did anyone see any Gonzalez make adjustments last night, he did the same **** from round 1 to 12.

He also loses way to many rounds and takes too many punches to be p4p. Aren't top p4p guys suppose to have great defense? Gonzalez only adjustment is to walk forward faster and throw more punches. Cuadras in my opinion should of earned a draw, he did enough to keep his belt, what happened to the unwritten rule "you have to beat the champion" not just compete with him to take the title?

If Ward or Floyd looked that sloppy, took that many punches, or had a face swollen to that degree they'd drop from the top spot in a heartbeat! What's with all the HBO and fan empathy for Gonzalez, he is not the best, just accept reality and take his name out that top 5.

Have your IQ checked

[SugarRayCurtain]

Chocolate head is probably the most overrated fighter in the boxing industry today
Moving up 2lbs and beating some guy nobodys ever heard up isnt P4P worthy

[Idunnoshet]

Cuadras is very skilled and naturally much larger, that is clear to see.

This is looking like a troll thread tbh

I agree . Cuadras was world champion with 37 fight 28 knockouts and defended the title 6 times . No skills ??? By the way I was at the Forum last night and all the Nicaraguan fans looked Super nervous before the decision was read .

[Code Red]

Cuadras is very skilled and naturally much larger, that is clear to see.

This is looking like a troll thread tbh

Seriously you about to tell me that Cuadras fought a technically proficient fight against Gonzalez? That guy made a ton of mistakes every round, that was clear and obvious to see

With that said I think he earned a draw, Gonzalez was even less impressive

[Tom Cruise]

Seriously you about to tell me that Cuadras fought a technically proficient fight against Gonzalez? That guy made a ton of mistakes every round, that was clear and obvious to see

Well obviously he made mistakes otherwise RG wouldnt have been able to hit him.

No ones claiming he is Floyd Mayweather.