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  • SilverMiles
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    #61
    Originally posted by larryusa
    When you get done..winner of this fight will be ranked p4p #1
    Roman Gonzales is #1 and will remain #1 into the new year if he beats Cuadras. Ward and Kovalev are fighting it out for #2. That's just the way it is.

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    • Larry the boss
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      #62
      Originally posted by SilverMiles
      Roman Gonzales is #1 and will remain #1 into the new year if he beats Cuadras. Ward and Kovalev are fighting it out for #2. That's just the way it is.
      would you be willing to bet on that?.

      can you even name Gonzales's top 5 wins?

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      • joseph5620
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        #63
        Originally posted by SilverMiles
        It's so annoying when boxers try to talk themselves into the P4P #1 spot, Gonzales remains #1 if he beats Cuadras. The only way Ward should even be considered is if he KOs Kova early.
        If you ever wonder why you're seen as an idiot, go back and read your post here.

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        • Edward90
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          #64
          Originally posted by SilverMiles
          GTFO with that bull. Just say you don't follow the lower weight classes. Gonzales matches and prehaps even surpasses both Ward and Kovalev resumes. Estrada is the best fight either of the three have fought. Froch is Wards best win and he's no better than Brian Viloria, dare I say not even as good as the Hawaiian Punch.

          Estrada, Arroyo, Yaegshi, Viloria, and prehaps Cuadras places Gomzales #1 until he loses or retires. Ward will just have to get inline.
          Man, cut all that out. A Froch win is no better than Viloria?!?! Estrada was a great win and hopefully a rematch occurs, but a Ward or Kov win for either fighter surpasses that easily. Arroyo? Like McWilliams Arroyo? LOL. This isn't the amateur anymore...Yaegashi? The same one that got put out by Guevara right after the Gonzalez fight when moving back down to light fly. I have reasons for believing the Ward-Kov winner has earned the top spot. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean I'm not about the lower classes... Like I said, it doesn't matter over here. But I'm surprised there is much debate about it. Hopefully, Gonzalez keeps fighting good opponents. Then, my opinion would change..

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            #65
            Originally posted by SilverMiles
            Nope don't got it. Fuq Ward, Gonzales stays #1. If wanted to be #1 he should have remained active. The rules don't get changed for one fighter.
            Pound for pound is subjective. It's not an official ranking system and there are no rules. Unfortunately you're not smart enough to understand that.

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            • -Kev-
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              #66
              Originally posted by larryusa
              would you be willing to bet on that?.

              can you even name Gonzales's top 5 wins?
              That's too easy, just boxrec and pick out 5 of the most recognizable names on his resume regardless of their age when he beat them, what they had recently done before he beat them, and what they went on to do after

              Estrada - Very good - No negative comments
              Yaegashi - Meh, KO'ed right after getting KO'ed by RG
              Viloria - old, last good win was Segura in 2011
              Arroyo - limited resume, already had 2 losses, 1 debatable to Amnat
              Rodriguez Jr - Supposedly good I heard, won titles after losing to RG
              Niida - a 5'1" midget with no punching power, retired right after RG fight

              That's 6 I guess, very unimpressive resume. P4P #1 though

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              • TheBoxingXpert
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                #67
                Ward is gonna clown Kovalev.

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                • bambam182
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                  #68
                  the pac-tards still think pac is pound for pound number 1 ROFL, no joke they do. they still think he is undefeated.

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                  • 1hourRun
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by larryusa
                    would you be willing to bet on that?.

                    can you even name Gonzales's top 5 wins?

                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    That's too easy, just boxrec and pick out 5 of the most recognizable names on his resume regardless of their age when he beat them, what they had recently done before he beat them, and what they went on to do after

                    Estrada - Very good - No negative comments
                    Yaegashi - Meh, KO'ed right after getting KO'ed by RG
                    Viloria - old, last good win was Segura in 2011
                    Arroyo - limited resume, already had 2 losses, 1 debatable to Amnat
                    Rodriguez Jr - Supposedly good I heard, won titles after losing to RG
                    Niida - a 5'1" midget with no punching power, retired right after RG fight

                    That's 6 I guess, very unimpressive resume. P4P #1 though
                    Kev the boxrec warrior strikes again....Im not even going to touch on Estrada...just to prove how ahead RG is.

                    • Akira Yagaehi - Former lineal @ 112 three weight champion

                    • Arroyo - was in the top ten when RG beat him Arroyo should of been IBF champion but was robbed by Ruenrog in Thailand..despite dropping him in the six.

                    • Brian Viloria - Current #5. in the world @ 112 Former unified champion multi weight champion.

                    • Yutaka Niida - Former #1. straw-weight in the world - two time miniweight champion ; two losses the first he avenged reclaiming his title the second one was to RG.

                    • Katsunari Takayama -- Since 2005 till the present hes been in the top five!!! current WBO 105 champion still top five has held every major title in that division: IBF,WBA,WBC,WBO can any welterweight say they held every title @ 147?

                    I just gave you five names OK now Im going to touch on Wards Resume ( the notable names atleast ) Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham and Mikkel Kessler.

                    Note: Roman Gonzalez opponents are still on top winning world titles yet two of Wards opponents have retired years ago... Carl Froch was 34 years old when Andre beat him but that's considered a great win?! but when Roman beats Viloria hes no good despite being top five; Carl Froch 'won' his first title in 2008 and retires 2014!!!! so six years from becoming world champion and KO George Groves in Wembly and that's it ?? ( one division champion and a schooling by the Americans with a robbery in Anthony Dirrell along the way ) -- pathetic. Arthur Abraham is arguably Wards best win being a multi-weight champion @ 160-168 and was still champion in 2016! Great Look on S.O.G props no complain here...Then you got Kessler ( controversial victory due to fouls ) but it looks good on paper tho lol! ; Mikkel has long track record but never moved up only one division champion but yeah there you go....that Wards Resume I mean is it fair to knock Roman when he beat guys in their prime? had no controversy? been active adding more weight than most of these guys in the P4P list? Ward became lineal cleaning out 168 but RG beat the MAN...I mean......come on..
                    Last edited by 1hourRun; 09-09-2016, 04:10 PM.

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                    • The Hammer
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                      #70
                      Andrea "Diva" Ward cannot beat a good opponent without illegal tactics.

                      With an honest ref, Princess Andrea is an ordinary fighter.

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