Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Flat Fee For Golovkin To Face Canelo - No Money Split!

[GGG Gloveking]

He said he would go to 168 and called out fighters at 168 then when ward says I'll fight you he said I am the A side but if we fight it won't be at 168 you have to agree to lose weight and fight at catchweight. But he cried when canelo said I am not a 160lb fighter yet of you want to fight me now come down to a catchweight. Phuk boy can't have it both ways and make so called A side demands of other fighters then cry when true A side fighters do the same to him.

That doesn't address how 50-50 is unfair. Im guessing Ward feels entitled to the same deal as lesser fighters, as fighters he's already beaten. But, nonetheless, you cant reasonably argue that 50-50 is unfair.

As far as Canelo, he actually did say he would fight GGG at 160. Called him into the ring and said as much. Furthermore, being the WBC MW champ, Ring MW champ, and Lineal MW champ would lend some credibility to the idea of Canelo being a MW

[taes]

Canelo's the new face of boxing?? Are we talking about the same guy here? The one that was utterly humiliated by Mayweather? The one that barely got past Lara (and that was a seriously debatable decision). The one that struggled past Trout. FFS. He needs to change the record. He has just committed the greatest duck of all time and I know no one, that isn't idiot, who can't see that. When is Canelo going to invade the MW division? This is his first fight in f*** knows how many years that wasn't in the MW division!! Canela shortly will have no where to go. GGG will own all the belts at MW and Canelo is struggling with light MW - I actually think Andrade beats him!!

[icha]

There's no denying that Canelo is a bigger draw than GGG. That's not up for debate. Mexico is a boxing rich nation and there are millions upon millions of Mexicans living here in the States.

What I'm debating is those who are implying that Canelo is some sort of Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao in terms of stardom and drawing power. He's far from and his stardom is actually fading ever since his blatant duck of GGG.

of course he isnt on that level yet, i dont think that anyone can say that, but he is big enough to make this fight on his terms vs someone like ggg...

[Robbie Barrett]

what happens when/if Golovkin Brook makes comparable money to Canelo Smith? The difference is Canelo's fanbase is shrinking and Golovkin's is growing.

Nothing. UK market matters little to this fight, it won't be a PPV in the UK so why would the UK numbers affect the purses of a Canelo-Golovkin bout?

[Mr. Luthor]

There's no denying that Canelo is a bigger draw than GGG. That's not up for debate. Mexico is a boxing rich nation and there are millions upon millions of Mexicans living here in the States.

What I'm debating is those who are implying that Canelo is some sort of Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao in terms of stardom and drawing power. He's far from and his stardom is actually fading ever since his blatant duck of GGG.

Canelo is not Mayweather or Pacquiao but since Canelo is now the biggest draw in boxing, he is the current "Mayweather". HBO is refusing to show Pacquiao vs Vargas and is putting Golovkin vs Brook on HBO Championship Boxing but making Canelo vs Smith a PPV......there's a reason for that.

Bottom line is that Canelo has no reason to concede anything to Golovkin because Golovkin has nothing that Canelo needs.

[icha]

what happens when/if Golovkin Brook makes comparable money to Canelo Smith? The difference is Canelo's fanbase is shrinking and Golovkin's is growing.

then gbp has to let ggg keep the uk money, and canelo keeps the us money...
there is a reason that fight is only ppv in the uk and free in the us...

[Deevel916]

Mayweather was triple the draw and Canelo only got $5mil guarantee, it was the 2nd highest grossing fight in history and Canelo made around $12 mil total when all said and done.

Fanbase shrinking, credibilty etc..... Heard that all before when Mayweather was accused of ducking Pacquiao, didn't affect him much did it?

Difference being, Floyd played a good heel. People hated him but still tuned in to see if he lost.

Canelo supporters on the other hand are just losing interest in him and it will show when these ppv numbers come in and when GBP has to give away thousands of tickets to his upcoming fight vs a guy that nobody cares about.

[GGG Gloveking]

of course is unfair, everything has to happen on ggg's terms..."canelo, you need to fight at 160 or no fight, and give me big slice of the pie"...

Did you really want to see a fight for ALL the MW belts (except the WBO), be held at some damned CW?! What kind of boxing fan are you? Now, for the154 lb champ Canelo, as opposed to the160 lb champ Canelo, I think 157 is reasonable

[hitking]

Sounds fair to me. GGG's lone PPV appearance bombed its ass off. However, GGG could stregnthen his leverage at the negotiating table if he were to fight the Ward-Kovalev winner in a summer PPV. I think that would do some pretty good numbers. Probably in the 300K-400K range. Which will lilely outdo Canelo-Smith. And whatever cab driver or jr welterweifht Ginger decides to fight next summer.

[Boxing Logic]

Bingo. These idiots tried to make demands on weight to the A side. Refused to come down or even negotiate on weight saying the fight would only happen at 160 when canelo has never fought higher then 155. That's called a non starter in negotiations. So canelo camp said OK then you don't get the fight now because this is the weight I'm fighting at now and I am the A side. The fight will only be on canelo s terms. So now you have to wait until canelo is ready to fight at 160. Just like ggg has told guys at 168. And when the fight does happen we tell you how much money we are offering you take it or leave it. Just like ggg does to lesser named fighters. If GGG gave up weight and played his B side role he could of gotten the fight earlier.

You're either misinformed or biased. When has GGG told guys at 168 they have to wait for him to be ready to move up? He already tried to fight Froch at 168, IN HIS FIRST FIGHT at the new weight class (take notes Ward), so you're full of ****.