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  • #91
    GGG complains about not having a worthy opponent, but hasn't made one sacrifice or one concession his whole career. Not one.

    If GGG turns this down, it's his own damn fault and he deserves to fight the Adama's of boxing for the rest of his career.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
      It sounds like Oscar is using this A side stuff as a way to offer GGG an unfair low amount which will be turned down. Then Oscar will say that he tried to make the fight but GGG didn't want the fight. Offering GGG slightly more money than he ever made before is BS. The fight is a huge money fight because it's GGG vs. Canelo not because it's a Canelo fight. Canelo can't make anywhere near the money he makes for this fight with any other opponent. Oscar hates this fight and he will make sure it doesn't happen and try to blame the other side. Oscar would rather make the same money with two or three fights Canelo is sure to win than make really big money for one fight that Canelo would lose.
      So you're saying that offering GGG a career payday is unfair even though GGG isn't making HBO PPV money with any other opponent other than Canelo but Canelo is still headlining HBO PPV's without Golovkin and can also make US and UK PPV money against Eubank Jr, Saunders and possibly Brook?

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Kigali View Post
        GGG gives no slack at the negotiating table....yet he wants slack be given him.

        He's punchy already...or just ******....maybe both.
        You sound like an account paid to troll fans to try to get them emotionally invested enough to buy PPVs. Your absurdity makes no sense under any other circumstances. GGG is known as one of the most generous, no nonsense negotiators in the sport. When Curtis Stevens called him out, but then rejected the initial offer, Team GGG came back and made him an even better offer to get him to sign, even though Stevens was the "B-side." Everything you say is completely backwards and untrue so you must be a paid account. I bet Oscar hired some dudes to be like, "if we can piss off as many boxing fans as possible with absolute b*ll**** lies, they might get angry enough to buy the Canelo-Smith PPV hoping Canelo loses.'

        I hope fans only buy good PPVs and support the good fights. That will show boxers that fans appreciate good fights, not ducking.

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        • #94
          I don't blame Oscar; He has to protect his only investment. He doesn't have many fighters left in his stable, because Richard Schaefer signed them all away to Al Haymon while he was on hiatus.

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          • #95
            No way GGG accepts this ****** offer. Why would he take a flat fee when the fight can sell. Every fighter needs a B side to sell a fight and every fighter should get a slice of the PPV sales. HOW MANY PPV did Canelo do with Khan? That shows you every fighter needs a B side.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
              You're either misinformed or biased. When has GGG told guys at 168 they have to wait for him to be ready to move up? He already tried to fight Froch at 168, IN HIS FIRST FIGHT at the new weight class (take notes Ward), so you're full of ****.
              Fighting a guy who been out of the ring for over a year and contemplating retirement was reason he didn't fight in timeframe is not something you should be telling a boxer to take notes of or a fat out of shape Chavez Jr. when it was more active fighters at 168 he could of picked

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                You sound like an account paid to troll fans to try to get them emotionally invested enough to buy PPVs. Your absurdity makes no sense under any other circumstances. GGG is known as one of the most generous, no nonsense negotiators in the sport. When Curtis Stevens called him out, but then rejected the initial offer, Team GGG came back and made him an even better offer to get him to sign, even though Stevens was the "B-side." Everything you say is completely backwards and untrue so you must be a paid account. I bet Oscar hired some dudes to be like, "if we can piss off as many boxing fans as possible with absolute b*ll**** lies, they might get angry enough to buy the Canelo-Smith PPV hoping Canelo loses.'

                I hope fans only buy good PPVs and support the good fights. That will show boxers that fans appreciate good fights, not ducking.
                You're backwards, K2 is famous for low balling and having no room to budge. Watch him give up his WBA belt to Jacobs next. Everyone in boxing community hates Golovkin.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Nomadic View Post
                  Fight is dead before it even got off the ground.
                  Intent was never to leave ground.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                    So many biased fanboys on this site it's crazy. If Brook is the A-side, name me one time he sold out a stadium before fighting GGG? It's only GGG who can make that happen for him.

                    Same with Canelo-GGG. Oscar himself has called that the biggest fight in boxing. Are you saying that's just because of Canelo? Because he is currently fighting Liam Smith and that is not considered the biggest fight in boxing. Only with GGG is it the biggest fight in boxing. Therefore, GGG has massive value. Canelo-Smith is maybe 200k pay per view buys. Canelo-GGG is 1 mil at least. So there you have it, Canelo by himself is 200k, while GGG adds 800k more. Likewise, GGG can't get 1 mil without Canelo.

                    They are both valuable. The split should be basically the same as Mayweather-Pacquiao. 60-40 is very fair. If Canelo's PPV vs Smith underperforms, and he proves he can't do any better than GGG vs Lemieux, that will show both are in similar boats and it should be 50-50. I think people overestimate Canelo's drawing power. The only PPVs he did good were Floyd and Cotto. That just proves boxing fans pay for good fights, between two good guys, not for single fighters. I bet you Kovalev-Ward does twice as much as Canelo-Smith even though Canelo is a bigger star than either of them. That's because boxing fans pay for premier matchups, not for one fighter. And even though GGG-Lemieux was a good hardcore matchup, Lemieux had no name recognition in the US. So comparing Canelo-Cotto to GGG-Lemieux is a joke.

                    I think that now that Canelo is fighting someone as unknown as Lemieux, we're going to get a more accurate picture of things and I bet we find out that Canelo is not much more of a PPV attraction than GGG is.
                    Canelo did over 300,000 PPV's vs both Angulo and Lara. Little things like that is why there is no comparison between Canelo and Golovkin in regards to A-side and B-side. Furthermore, Canelo has the ability to get any opponent he wants while Golovkin does not. Now add that to the facts that Canelo has been in the main event of some of the biggest PPV's of the past couple of years......and you have Golovkin getting a flat rate.

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                    • Originally posted by gooneyboy304 View Post
                      Another excuse in the making... De la Hoeya ....now I hope everyone starts to realize he is just a liar
                      Brah. Everyone knew he was a liar since his Trinidad fight and then confirmed with his Hopkins fight. He's a scam artist.
                      Last edited by Don Pichardo; 09-07-2016, 03:24 PM.

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