Why do some posters hate Gennady Golovkin so much?

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  • GGG Gloveking
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    #91
    Originally posted by SemiGreat
    break it down, semi !

    1) 1st you say you cant. how can you ? theres no barometer. no one can know how a guy would do if they were clean (you mention holy but i dont recall him ever being banned for any reason, so theres that). but there lies the rub. royds are supposed to catapult the user to uncharted territory. are we to assume holy was on the royd his entire career ? or just the fights he won ?

    2) i dont claim to be a p''e''d expert. im just a guy waiting for conclusive, scientific facts that say, without a doubt whatsoever, that p''e''d's guarantee a guy a w. if p''e''d's cant give a guy that w, then whats the point ?

    3) most sports that ban p''e''d's is due to in large part, health issues. dont take my word for it....
    Anabolic steroids are a form of synthetic testosterone that may be prescribed by doctors but are illegal for use without a prescription. They are

    https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31371

    http://sportsanddrugs.procon.org/vie...ourceID=002352

    iow, smoking has been the coolest **** on earth....until recently. NOW, after trillions of dollars have been made, does uncle sam want to wean smokers off of their ****** habit. same thing with p''e''ds. every sport has had key players on the shlt AND KNEW ALL ABOUT IT (youd be more naive than me if you thought the various sports didnt know). just all of a sudden does sports want to come off as something pure. gtfoh.

    4) i know the facts are out there. ive been the only one posting links. nope, never been inclined to royd up....BUT, id like to have the option. everyone should have that option. life for adults is always about options. real/fake muscles.....YOU tell me the difference if you can. or maybe the worlds best muscle scientist can tell me.

    witch hunts are very trendy NOW a days.
    You're right. Performance Enhancing Drugs, just ponder the name for a minute, dont "guarantee a w". They do however, guarantee that you will be stronger, faster, have more endurance, quicker recovery time, etc. than you otherwise would. You can train longer and harder and more often than you otherwise would. That soreness the day after a very intense workout, gone. That breathlessness you feel after a run, gone. Those weights that were heavy before, lighter now.

    Moreso than any other sport, PEDs should rightfully be banned in combat sports. Look at Mark McGwire. Think about the extra strength he had and how much further he could hit the ball on roids. Do you want all that extra strength and power being aimed at your head? A roided fighter can kill his opponent. Or look at Lance Armstrong. Look how much extra stamina and speed he had. Do you want all that extra speed in the ring with you? Do you want to be in the ring with a guy who is still fresh after 8 or 10 rounds when you're sucking wind? A fresh fighter with extra strength that I eluded to earlier? A roided fighter can kill someone in the ring. We're not talking about smacking a ball out the park farther or riding a bicycle faster and farther. We're taking about combat. Where men have died in the ring. Do you want more deaths in boxing?

    Instead of browsing the web for links, I would advise you to go to a local gym. Ask an athlete there who has used, if you can find one that will admit to it, and ask him what the effects are. Ask him how much longer he can work out, how much farther he could run, how much more often he could train. I just cant keep arguing with someone who hasnt taken them, telling me about something I have taken.

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    • therealpugilist
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      #92
      Originally posted by Kuyukut
      the simple answer would be... 'cause he ain't black! just ask therealpugilist.
      awwww my son loves calling daddy's name.


      seriously...you got issues.

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        #93
        Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
        You're right. Performance Enhancing Drugs, just ponder the name for a minute, dont "guarantee a w". They do however, guarantee that you will be stronger, faster, have more endurance, quicker recovery time, etc. than you otherwise would. You can train longer and harder and more often than you otherwise would. That soreness the day after a very intense workout, gone. That breathlessness you feel after a run, gone. Those weights that were heavy before, lighter now.

        Moreso than any other sport, PEDs should rightfully be banned in combat sports. Look at Mark McGwire. Think about the extra strength he had and how much further he could hit the ball on roids. Do you want all that extra strength and power being aimed at your head? A roided fighter can kill his opponent. Or look at Lance Armstrong. Look how much extra stamina and speed he had. Do you want all that extra speed in the ring with you? Do you want to be in the ring with a guy who is still fresh after 8 or 10 rounds when you're sucking wind? A fresh fighter with extra strength that I eluded to earlier? A roided fighter can kill someone in the ring. We're not talking about smacking a ball out the park farther or riding a bicycle faster and farther. We're taking about combat. Where men have died in the ring. Do you want more deaths in boxing?

        Instead of browsing the web for links, I would advise you to go to a local gym. Ask an athlete there who has used, if you can find one that will admit to it, and ask him what the effects are. Ask him how much longer he can work out, how much farther he could run, how much more often he could train. I just cant keep arguing with someone who hasnt taken them, telling me about something I have taken.
        not a link in sight. let me know when you get that sorted out.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
          Maybe because he's hyped up as a top 5 P4P and he has the weakest resume of any top 5 P4P fighter ever?

          Maybe because people are claiming he's an ATG and he has the weakest resume of any ATG ever?

          Maybe because he's an hypocrite?

          Maybe because he makes claims and doesn't back them up?

          Maybe because the majority of his fans are fucking ******ed casuals and ex pac turds?
          summed it up.......but all fails " they dont like him because he not black doe!!!"

          really? so they didnt notice the past 3 years all the hype he has gotten, awesome style but lacking substance on the resume to be anywhere near top 5 p4p

          literally the weakest resume of any fighter Ive seen to be considered "top 3" p4p

          you are only as good as who you beat, the talent is their but why get ahead of yourself assuming when we can watch him prove himself in the ring like everyone else

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          • GGG Gloveking
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            #95
            Originally posted by SemiGreat
            not a link in sight. let me know when you get that sorted out.
            Let me know when you've actually injested some Clen, or Andro, and can speak from experience

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            • Elroy The Great
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              #96
              Originally posted by GGG Gloveking
              Let me know when you've actually injested some Clen, or Andro, and can speak from experience
              i asked 1st and even went so far as to set the example.

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                #97
                Personally, I have never heard of such a thing. Who hates Golovkin? Outside of Manny Pacquiao, he is by far the most popular boxer here on Non Stop Boxing.

                For one, he is a nice looking guy, have a crowd pleasing style, he's fan friendly and conducts himself like a humble gentleman who displays character outside of the ring.

                So how can anyone hate that? Also, he is a great fighter that most boxers tend to avoid. Therefore, overall I think he is a hell of a boxer and a hell of a man and his fans should be very proud of him.

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                • Madison Boxing
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by PK3434
                  Maybe they just don't like boxing.

                  I can appreciate that different people have style preferences, but it is hard for me to fathom why someone wouldn't be a fan of Golovkin.

                  The race angle is very weird too. Golovkin grew up in newly post-soviet Kazakhstan where people didn't have **** whatsoever. He didn't get any promotional push until he was about 30 years old. He is a leader and a teacher in the gym and treats all of the black, hispanic, and russian kids at his gym like they are his brothers. As a fighter and as a good dude, I don't understand the strange jealousy that some people here have towards him.

                  However, it is strictly an internet thing. I've been to 4 of his fights and his fans are very multicultural.
                  they dont really have a reason for not liking him, main one i hear is 'we dont like his fans'. Basically these guys like hating, it gives them a purpose in life.

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                  • R-C
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by ElBossHogg

                    Dougie's face reaction: priceless

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                    • just the facts
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by champion4ever
                      Personally, I have never heard of such a thing. Who hates Golovkin? Outside of Manny Pacquiao, he is by far the most popular boxer here on Non Stop Boxing.

                      For one, he is a nice looking guy, have a crowd pleasing style, he's fan friendly and conducts himself like a humble gentleman who displays character outside of the ring.

                      So how can anyone hate that? Also, he is a great fighter that most boxers tend to avoid. Therefore, overall I think he is a hell of a boxer and a hell of a man and his fans should be very proud of him.
                      This is an example of what's wrong with g string. The first two paragraphs can't be denied. g string is all of that fan friendly, humble, etc. But the problem lies in that 3rd paragraph. Great fighter? Not with that resume. Most boxers tend to avoid? To some degree, but after bragging about how they would fight anyone from 154-168, they wouldn't fight Ward at 168, wouldn't fight Canelo at 155, and don't even want to hear Lara's name.

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