Comments Thread For: Golovkin: No Big Fights at 168, I Make 160 Easy - I'm Not Big 160

[bigdunny1]

Who's he trying to force to move up? Canelo, a former MW champ who makes a living beating up smaller guys, when he's walking around @ damn near LHW? Cotto? who also held a MW belt after beating a crippled old Martinez? If you don't want to fight the guy who wants the belts you hold, give them up! Oh wait, that's what those bitches did.

When has Canelo fought at 160? Oh never so then yes he is trying to force him to move up. Fighting a catchweight 1 pound over 154. And both gave up the belts because they are not middleweights. So why is GGG is trying to fight him still? Why was he trying to fight Floyd last year and Manny? Why is he fighting Brook? Hint neither of these guys have a belt at 160 or have EVER fought a fight at 160. You know damn well it's not because a belt. The prize is getting a big name fight. Isn't that why this clown just said he won't go up to 168? If it's about a belt go to 168 and grab one instead of dragging Brook up 2 weight classes. Ain't no bigger name fight then Canelo so why won't he move down to make the fight? GGG is a walking contradiction, a liar and coward. Sorry you have to make excuses for his lame @ss.

[Joe Beamish]

I think Oscar and Canelo are still making noises about intending to fight Golovkin. And didn't Canelo himself talk a blue streak in the ring after knocking out his junior welterweight opponent? He's not effing around. Let's do this.

I think he said, "160 is not a problem."

That's a big money fight, so....still waiting. Sign the documents. Let's do this.

[robertzimmerman]

So if your joke promoters can't secure quality fights at 160 you just turn around and fight a WW after you just spent months criticizing Canelo dragging a WW up 1 weight class to 155. This is worse and hypocritical dragging a WW up 2 full weight classes to 160. Nobody put a gun to his face and made him sell out. He decided that so I don't want to hear the excuses. And yes he was begging both Floyd and Manny just last year. Again why is it all these guys he wants to fight have never fought a day of their life at 160? Why he looking down instead of answering the challenge of the numerous guys that will fight him at 168? And if it's ok for him to say I will fight you guys eventually but not until I am ready to move up but it's not OK for Canelo to say the same to him? Oh because GGG is the bigger superstar and sells way more PPVs then Canelo...oh wait never mind LMAO

1. Again, he wasn't begging Floyd and Manny to fight him. This is your spin on things because you are debating on emotion.

2. The Brook fight is disappointing. But no, due to the circumstances, it's not worse than what Canelo did. Because Canelo actively pursued Khan after requesting a voluntary, whereas GG actually signed a contract to fight Eubank and then handed it back in. No, nobody put a gun to his head to face Brook. You are right. But nobody would have refused Brook and walked away from the fight in his position. And anybody who disagrees, is a liar. Because HBO were more than happy, his training camp had already been set up, the terms were exactly the same, and it gave him the opportunity to broaden his fan base on a huge U.K. PPV. It would have been nonsensical to have walked. And to fight who? Brook was his 3rd choice of opponent, and HBO's date had been booked since March. To keep that date, they would literally only have had days to have found another opponent and another venue. It would have been practically impossible. And his wish is to fight another twice before the year is out. So why would he have jeopardised that? He wouldn't have.

3. Who are the numerous guys at 168 who want to fight him?

4. No, it's not okay what Canelo and Oscar did. If he's genuinely not ready to fight at MW, then they should have relinquished the belt after Cotto. That would have been fine. Nobody could have criticised them. But they asked for a voluntary against Khan and gave everyone the impression that they were going to fight GG afterwards even though they had no intentions of doing so. We had all of the BS where they invited GG into the ring afterwards etc. So the circumstances are completely different.

[bigdunny1]

Canelo vs GGG was a mandated fight for the WBC MW title at 160lbs.

Remind me again why it didn't happen.

you keep bringing up a belt when nobody cares about the belt. GGG can grab everyone vacant and paper belt at 160 and it changes nothing about his legacy and how people view him. And Canelo threw the belt in the trash so there is no mandate of 160. So what's the problem why is GGG still unwilling to go down in weight to fight Canelo? What happened to I'll go to 154 or 168? Didn't he just say no reason to 168 because those aren't big fights so no excuse to not go down since Canelo is the biggest fight possible. But we all know this fraud is a liar.

[HeroBando]

how can they offer a catchweight contract when all year GGG, his trainer and camp did not stop interviews saying we will not go down in weight under any circumstances. Don't make me pull up the interviews to expose you. That's called a non starter when a fighter says flat out we won't drop a single pound. What happened to 154 or 168?

It's worth a try if the alternative is losing all the hard earned respect and becoming boxings laughing stock. Cw is powerful leverage, you don't give that up before the negotiations even start. Not that it should even come up for a unification/mando

[batista84]

There is little insensitive for him to move up when there is no big fights up there. Degale, Zurdo, Sterm need to fight each other so they can make it a big fight.

But he's not businessman, right?

#thetruth

[bigdunny1]

1. Again, he wasn't begging Floyd and Manny to fight him. This is your spin on things because you are debating on emotion.

2. The Brook fight is disappointing. But no, due to the circumstances, it's not worse than what Canelo did. Because Canelo actively pursued Khan after requesting a voluntary, whereas GG actually signed a contract to fight Eubank and then handed it back in. No, nobody put a gun to his head to face Brook. You are right. But nobody would have refused Brook and walked away from the fight in his position. And anybody who disagrees, is a liar. Because HBO were more than happy, his training camp had already been set up, the terms were exactly the same, and it gave him the opportunity to broaden his fan base on a huge U.K. PPV. It would have been nonsensical to have walked. And to fight who? Brook was his 3rd choice of opponent, and HBO's date had been booked since March. To keep that date, they would literally only have had days to have found another opponent and another venue. It would have been practically impossible. And his wish is to fight another twice before the year is out. So why would he have jeopardised that? He wouldn't have.

3. Who are the numerous guys at 168 who want to fight him?

Only spin going on is you. NOBODY forced him to fight Brook. And if his joke promoters can't get him fights at 160 then move the F up. What you don't do is spend half the year killing one fighter for not moving up and instead fighting a WW at 155. And then after taking that stand calling him just a business man and not respecting the sport you turn around and do worse because now you dragging a WW up to 160 and a hypocrite to boot. Your explanation he had no choice he had to fight Brook because his fight with Eubank fell apart is lie. And like me saying if I go to a restaurant and they don't have my favorite dish then I can just pull my pants down and take a shyt right there. And my defense is well they didn't have my favorite food what else am I supposed to do. F outta here

[kafkod]

you keep bringing up a belt when nobody cares about the belt. GGG can grab everyone vacant and paper belt at 160 and it changes nothing about his legacy and how people view him. And Canelo threw the belt in the trash so there is no mandate of 160. So what's the problem why is GGG still unwilling to go down in weight to fight Canelo? What happened to I'll go to 154 or 168? Didn't he just say no reason to 168 because those aren't big fights so no excuse to not go down since Canelo is the biggest fight possible. But we all know this fraud is a liar.

Have I missed something? Did Canelo offer to fight Golovkin at a catchweight after he handed over his belt?

And if GGG offered a catchweight to Canelo now, I know what your reaction would be - "I thought he only wanted the belt .. lying POS ... why doesn't he pick on somebody his own size ... " .. etc

[batista84]

Not really, since Brook is heavier than GGG before the fight, he actually will be more comfortable at 160 than 157. He has to cut less weight before the fight.

The only difference is how uncomfortable he would make GGG. Golovkin is 160 champ, Brook wants those titles, he should fight at 160.

Its not like Brook doesnt walk around at 185 and was 176 thirty days out. GGG was 11 pounds lighter.



The same fans who now criticize ggg for fighting Brook (who is heavier than him before, during and after fights), would demand he go 15 pounds north.

GGG will never be heavier than Ward is, but the same haters will ignore this.

There are frauds here all right, but it is not Golovkin.

Fact 1 - 4 years ago....GGG quote "I will fight anybody from 154-168"
Fact 2 - Less than half-year GGG quote "I'm not businessman"
Fact 3 - After Wade fight - GGG quote "Kell Brook is too small"
Fact 3 - Less than half-year GGG quote "Canelo vs Khan no respect for boxing"
Fact 4 - A week ago on conference call - GGG quote "Who's @168? Jack? Ramirez? De-Geale? they are not big fights, I want big fights.
Fact 5 - Golovkin has requested anyone who wants to fight him to move up or down to 160, he's critized fighters for doing so but he doesn't feel like he's subjected to the same standard.

Conclusion:
Your boy and his team have put their feet on their mouth, contradicions all over the place year after year, men fans like you just want a man you never met in your life and who doesn't give you a single penny have sucess.

Real Boxing Fans want the biggest fights. IMO Golovkin is not very different than Canelo, both cowards requesting special treatment for them, difference here is that Canelo right now brings big money, and that is a fact too.

You just got OWNED.

#onlythetruth
#fairtreatment

[robertzimmerman]

You know damn well Canelo didn't give no **** @ss about no mythical lineal title. He wanted to fight Cotto for 3 years at 154. Both are Jr Middleweights they fought at 1 pound over at a catchweight. Neither are 160lb fighters, neither have ever fought at that weight a day in their life. And it's easy to say if GGG didn't refuse going down in weight the fight still wouldn't of happened when this chump didn't do it. Just like it's easy to say GGG don't need to move up to 168 he will just KO all them guys anyway. Another thing to prove it. GGG is a coward. Making Floyd Mayweather like demands when he don't have a Floyd Mayweather like resume. PPV flopper with a joke resume but somehow he's entitled to make bigger star fighters come to his weight but he never has to go to anyone elses LMAO

So Canelo wasn't proud of winning the lineal belt?

Yes, it is easy to say that the Canelo fight wouldn't have happened regardless of the weight, because Oscar just doesn't want it yet.

Floyd Mayweather like demands? What demands? Wanting to fight at the 160 limit was hardly a demand.

What do you mean he's somehow entitled to make bigger star fighters come to his weight? Canelo WENT to his weight.