The biggest schooling a prime Top 3 P4P received?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Smash
    Donaire wasn't in his prime, against Rigo. He was above his best weight and had for the 2-3 fights before it, been an exclusively 1 handed fighter who had fallen in love with his power. He was a much better fighter, before that.

    My example would be Abner Mares getting knocked smooth out by Johnnh Gonzalez.
    I could see that with Doniare. He was certainly a lot more devastating at Bantamweight.

    Mares, was he P4P top 3? I don't recall.

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    • Willy Wanker
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      #32
      Toney getting schooled by Jones was the first fight that came to mind. I thought of other ones, but that was probably the best example. Jones made a very skilled fighter and hall of famer Toney look like a b class tune up. I was kid then, but was still surprised at how Jones made it look so easy.

      Pac beating down Barrera and Rigondeaux taking Donaire to school were also pretty damn impressive.

      Douglas beat up Tyson, but Tyson still had his moments.

      I also think Chavez wasn't really prime against Whitaker. Still a pretty good schooling.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts
        Mosley was P4P top 3 when Mayweather dominated him, so was JMM.
        Mosley wasn't even top ten when he fought Mayweather. He was a 4 to 1 underdog when he KOed Margarito and that win didn't make him top 3 or even top 10. Mosley was an old man and hadn't been top 3 for many years. Marquez was top 3 in a smaller weight class than Mayweather.

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          #34
          I voted that Jones gave Toney the biggest schooling by easily winning every round.

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            #35
            Donaire vs Rigo was a legit boxing 101.....nonito is gutsy though

            but Toney vs Jones should be the biggest schooling as both are ATGs

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              #36
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              I could see that with Doniare. He was certainly a lot more devastating at Bantamweight.

              Mares, was he P4P top 3? I don't recall.
              IIRC Mares got into the top 5 in a kind of 'we dont think hes that great, but he keeps beating good fighters' kind of way.

              Similar to how Froch got into top 10

              Dont think he ever got top 3. Mayweather, Pac, Martinez and Donaire were around at the time Mares was peaking and they were all above him
              Last edited by Tom Cruise; 08-15-2016, 08:11 AM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Tom Cruise
                IIRC Mares got into the top 5 in a kind of 'we dont think hes that great, but he keeps beating good fighters' kind of way.

                Similar to how Froch got into top 10.
                Haha, yeah I kind of recall that but not top 3 I don't think.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  I don't think Hamed was top 3 P4P at any point of his career.
                  If you go by Ring Magazine that's true - they had him at #6.

                  Many writers at the time - NON Ring Magazine - considered Hamed the top featherweight in the world and arguably #3 on the list behind Roy Jones and Shane Mosley, with B-Hop #4. Had Hamed not lost to Barrera, he would have been #2 and Floyd would have been #4.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by boliodogs
                    Mosley wasn't even top ten when he fought Mayweather. He was a 4 to 1 underdog when he KOed Margarito and that win didn't make him top 3 or even top 10. Mosley was an old man and hadn't been top 3 for many years. Marquez was top 3 in a smaller weight class than Mayweather.
                    Shane Mosley was universally considered to be P4P #3 when Mayweather fought him.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Willy Wanker
                      Toney getting schooled by Jones was the first fight that came to mind. I thought of other ones, but that was probably the best example. Jones made a very skilled fighter and hall of famer Toney look like a b class tune up. I was kid then, but was still surprised at how Jones made it look so easy.

                      Pac beating down Barrera and Rigondeaux taking Donaire to school were also pretty damn impressive.

                      Douglas beat up Tyson, but Tyson still had his moments.

                      I also think Chavez wasn't really prime against Whitaker. Still a pretty good schooling.
                      Not even B class to be honest.

                      He made Toney look like a complete bum.

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