Comments Thread For: Sergey Kovalev Drops, Dominates Chilemba: Waits For Ward

[ruedboy]

I agree.

That was a good win, Chilemba fought well.

And Kovalev is the man for donating his purse to Simakov's family.

What a legend, he hasn't been earning big paydays for that long.

Surprised that he isn't one of the most popular fighters in the sport.





I wouldn't bet my house on that if I was you.

He aint knocking Ward out, that fight will go to a decision.

I see the stoppage as a TKO rather than a KO, but I could be wrong.
Hopkins went the distance with Kovolev at 49 and the Russian couldn't put Chilembra away.
You're right though. Ward is an elite fighter, close to his prime whose undefeated. I definitely won't bet the house on, but if the odds look good a hundred wouldn't hurt

[turnedup]

You shouldn't waste your time getting destroyed with facts. I agree with you.

A fool will continue to show his @ss even when there are foots abound ready to kick it. Only a moron would think Andre Ward would go in for the kill...so yeah Andrew Ward going 12 rounds is what Ward does just like Lara and many others. Those facts good enough for you imbecile? Now please for the last time, fk off.

[joseph5620]

A fool will continue to show his @ss even when there are foots abound ready to kick it. Only a moron would think Andre Ward would go in for the kill...so yeah Andrew Ward going 12 rounds is what Ward does just like Lara and many others. Those facts good enough for you imbecile? Now please for the last time, fk off.

You just confirmed your ignorance and bias which was my point. Thank you.

[turnedup]

You just confirmed your ignorance and bias which was my point. Thank you.

You are the definition of a petulant child, so after twice asking you to leave me the fk alone you don't heed my request because of course you have the impulse control of a 2 year old I will help you out and hit the block/ignore button. Enjoy your oblivion.

[joseph5620]

You are the definition of a petulant child, so after twice asking you to leave me the fk alone you don't heed my request because of course you have the impulse control of a 2 year old I will help you out and hit the block/ignore button. Enjoy your oblivion.

Coming from an idiot who claimed Rhonda Rousey would beat all male professional boxers lol. Then you threw a tantrum when people disagreed with you. Sort of like you did here lol.

[Shpacman]

That's really all it is. But hopefully the fight happens. Now honestly, you're going to say I'm preparing excuses for Kovalev, but this is the God's honest truth, I'm worried he's old now. 33 for a puncher can be pushing it and Kovalev threw 40 punches a round and says he got punched out. Wtf is that? I thought we were seeing #1 vs #2 pound for pound but one guy can't throw 40 punches a round without gassing and that's supposed to be #1 or #2 pound for pound? I hope I'm wrong but that makes it seem like once again, just like May-Pac, they overcooked another good fight, and now we're going to watch Kovalev walk after Ward for 12 rounds standing there doing nothing for 20 seconds at a time between attempts to hit him because his 33 year old arms can't handle frequent combinations anymore without gassing out.

Kovalev said that he tried to put too much power behind those shots, so he gased out. Also he had not the best camp. He was sick for a week, had to use anthibiotics. Also the place which he used for the first part of the camp wasn't very good, there was a lack of proper conditions (not proper food and beds). And also as said his manager Egis Klimas the last part of training wasn't very good either, because he had many factors which spoiled his training focus.

[daggum]

kovalev got tired after throwing 20 punches

[aboutfkntime]

What about my points about the racial bias many black boxing fans have, and how it skews their perception on fighters and fights? Do you agree with that?

Because Ward ducked Lucian Bute after saying he'd fight him, hasn't fought one single opponent I wanted him to fight since the Super 6, and the Super 6 was itself an overrated situation that is looked back upon with rose colored glasses for a couple reasons. One, boxing fans are so starved for best vs best fights, and for tournaments, that the Super 6 received a ton of hype just for actually being a tournament where the winners fought. We've wanted that so long as boxing fans, like they do in the UFC, that we gave them so much credit just for doing that. And then, it's also hyped because Brits love their boxing, and Carl Froch is British. You see their fighters overhyped constantly. I remember Nathan Cleverley vs Sergey Kovalev was like an even odds fight in the UK, or pretty close. Just insane. So the Brits propped up an extremely slow fighter in Froch, who doesn't even have elite KO power to compensate for being slow, as being great, and then when Ward beat him, we transferred that manufactured hype to Ward.

But when you look back at it, who did he beat? Froch who never really broke through in the US against the elite fighters, and was mostly just a British star beating up British level guys. Arthur Abraham who was old. He'd lost two of three coming into the Ward fight. Mikkel Kessler who was old and had feasted mostly on overrated european fighters.

So that's why I'm always skeptical about Ward. He's supposedly the #1 P4P fighter and yet he's never fought a true A level fighter. He constantly found excuses not to. He wouldn't fight Bute. Then he took years off in the courtroom. Then even though he said he stayed ready in the gym, he wouldn't even fight a smaller fighter, GGG, right away, he wanted 2-3 tuneups first getting paid 2 million per tuneup, to fight a middleweight. Then when it was clear there were no names at 168, because it's been the worst division in boxing for the last 5-8 years, and people wanted him to move up to 175, where he fought in the Olympics, he kept saying he wasn't ready and putting that off, too, even though you could see vs Barrera he's been plenty big for 175 this whole time. He just had easier fights at 168 so he stayed there.

Always the path of least resistance. Always putting things off. Never any risk. Always excuses. Never great fights, never great opponents. He's much more of a gentleman than Mayweather, but when it comes to the boxing, the opponents, and the never taking risks, it always felt like it was the same story to me, and that he was hurting boxing, not adding to it.

Agreeing to fight Kovalev was literally the first time in his career he surprised me and did something to make me think maybe he won't be bad for boxing like Mayweather. So that made me cautiously optimistic, but he still hasn't fought him yet, and based on his track record with everything before, I'm still worried he will drop out. I was before Kovalev-Chilemba anyway. That's why I was sort of joking, but you never know, maybe this will be what causes him to go through with it. Maybe he wasn't sure until he saw this. You just can't be sure with him because before this, it was always avoiding the best fights, asking for tons of tuneups, taking huge holidays from the ring either with injury or court dates and then demanding more tuneups when he comes back.

You don't know what his plan is anymore than I do. The Eubanks acted like they wanted GGG, but in the end, you tell me, did they really? We never know what their intentions are until they step food in the ring. I tend to believe Ward wants the fight, based on what Kathy Duva has said as well, but there were warning signs also. For the longest time after it was leaked that he'd signed a three fight deal to fight Kovalev in November, when people asked him about it, he gave non-answers, and said things like "in the future" he would take him on "when the time is right" or something like that. He gave the same type of answers you would hear Adonis Stevenson give about Kovalev two years ago, or the kind of answers Danny Jacobs gives about GGG now. As boxing fans we are very tuned in to the subtle signs of ducking these days because we see it happen so often. And Ward definitely seemed to be giving off those signs. That's why you probably want to blame Kovalev fans or think they're biased against Ward, but you have to admit he did it to himself. Kovalev and Duva always said they wanted Ward now. He always danced around it. Same dynamic as Kovalev-Stevenson back in the day. So naturally that made us very skeptical.

So to really answer your question, all I can say is that skepticism still survives to this day. Has most of it gone away since apparently the contract is signed and Duva says she's sure Ward wants the fight? Yes, I'm not that skeptical anymore. But I still have a little bit of the skepticism left over, so I joke about it so that just in case Ward does avoid the fight and break my boxing heart, I can take out my righteous frustration on the people who defended him by saying "see???? This is why we were worried about him. This is why we had doubts. You guys always defend these fighters who never seem that eager to fight the big punching, elite guys, and now another one of these fighters has let us down and spoiled a great fight for us from happening."

That's really all it is. But hopefully the fight happens. Now honestly, you're going to say I'm preparing excuses for Kovalev, but this is the God's honest truth, I'm worried he's old now. 33 for a puncher can be pushing it and Kovalev threw 40 punches a round and says he got punched out. Wtf is that? I thought we were seeing #1 vs #2 pound for pound but one guy can't throw 40 punches a round without gassing and that's supposed to be #1 or #2 pound for pound? I hope I'm wrong but that makes it seem like once again, just like May-Pac, they overcooked another good fight, and now we're going to watch Kovalev walk after Ward for 12 rounds standing there doing nothing for 20 seconds at a time between attempts to hit him because his 33 year old arms can't handle frequent combinations anymore without gassing out.

I hope I'm wrong but this is why real boxing fans want the fights NOW, immediately, with these fighters who are already past 30. You never know when they will start to slow down and then the fight is not a superfight anymore. I hope I'm wrong but gassing out with such a low punch output is a bad, bad sign. And they're going to do the same thing with GGG just watch. He already gassed early against Monroe, because he's 34. Murray took him 11 rounds, which is partly because of Murray's guard like I said, but may be more than that. You didn't see GGG go 11 rounds a few years ago. Against Lemieux the jab was amazing but the combos were lacking... so as much as you hate GGG, they might have the makings of Canelo kicking his slow, gassed out ass fall 2017 when he's already 35, so if you think people saying GGG is better than Ward pisses you off now, just imagine how much fun you're going to have when Canelo is listed pound for pound #1 on HBO's list. This is the kind of crap that happens in boxing these days and it's ruining the sport. I was really looking forward to Kovalev-Ward but if Kovalev can't throw more than 400 punches in a fight now without gassing, we're not going to see the fight we wanted to see, period. He'll still have the power to knock Ward out if he catches him with a nice single shot and hurts him, but the number of exchanges will be much lower than we were expecting, and the fight will look a lot more like a LHW Donaire-Rigondeaux than it will a LHW SRL-Hearns.

That is not skepticism, you have sand up your vagina, because Ward punked lil'G..... so you indulge in negative trashy talk in an attempt to discredit Ward

Hypekin is totally unproven, and he has lied to you for FOUR YEARS...... and yet, you - in your wisdom - have decided that Ward is untrustworthy LMAO


Ward did not tell this HUGE porky.....


Loeffler said that Golovkin would have no problem fighting at a catchweight against Alvarez, who fought Lara in a 155-pound bout.

“We’ve always said that if there is a compelling fight, Gennady would move up or down, we’ve talked about moving up to 168 for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. because that would be a pay-per-view fight and if it’s Canelo, then I’m sure that we could work out a catchweight if he wanted to work out a catchweight and if it’s in his best interest. So that would certainly be a pay-per-view fight,” said Loeffler.

“There wouldn’t be any issues for us to come down to fight Canelo. There would still be a title on the line for Gennady because he would be fighting under 160, so he would be able to defend the titles at 156 or whatever you have the weight be. But Gennady would be willing to come down in weight to fight Canelo. I wouldn’t say it would be at 154 but certainly, given that Canelo fought his last fight at 155, then you could say that Gennady would certainly be willing to come down in weight to make the Canelo fight.”

[kafkod]

Loeffler said that Golovkin would have no problem fighting at a catchweight against Alvarez, who fought Lara in a 155-pound bout.

“We’ve always said that if there is a compelling fight, Gennady would move up or down, we’ve talked about moving up to 168 for Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. because that would be a pay-per-view fight and if it’s Canelo, then I’m sure that we could work out a catchweight if he wanted to work out a catchweight and if it’s in his best interest. So that would certainly be a pay-per-view fight,” said Loeffler.

“There wouldn’t be any issues for us to come down to fight Canelo. There would still be a title on the line for Gennady because he would be fighting under 160, so he would be able to defend the titles at 156 or whatever you have the weight be. But Gennady would be willing to come down in weight to fight Canelo. I wouldn’t say it would be at 154 but certainly, given that Canelo fought his last fight at 155, then you could say that Gennady would certainly be willing to come down in weight to make the Canelo fight.”

[aboutfkntime]

wow, way to explain that blatant lie from team Golovkin

you did such a great job, I decided to sig it