How is Brook Suddenly the Best Welterweight?

[Rip Chudd]

Lmao what's wrong, too scared to reply to me directly?

I already asked you both questions and you had absolutely no answers. You really should stop before you embarrass yourself any further.

No, you asked me what welters I thought could beat Brook, to which I replied. Scared? As if some child online would have me scared

The previous poster already answered what win was better. Why would I reply with the same answer? Marquez over Pacquiao is clearly better than Brook over Porter, and it's not even close. Again, your bias for Brook prevents you from seeing that.

You may want to stop as your bias further shows how dumb you are.

[Da Pimper]

No, you asked me what welters I thought could beat Brook, to which I replied. Scared? As if some child online would have me scared

LMFAO I thought you just said you would never reply to me again? And here you are going back on your word, like a child online.

Couldn't help but try to come back and save some face kid? What happened to your mature wise-guy act?

Thanks for showing everyone that you're an absolute joke whose word means nothing.

The previous poster already answered what win was better. Why would I reply with the same answer? Marquez over Pacquiao is clearly better than Brook over Porter, and it's not even close. Again, your bias for Brook prevents you from seeing that.

You may want to stop as your bias further shows how dumb you are.

Marquez is retired you dumb fk and hasn't been ranked in years, are you really gonna tell me that 40-year old retired Marquez is the #1 welter in the world and is better than Brook?

Man, you really must have been breast-fed by your dad. That wasn't milk dude, just saying.

[Da Pimper]

Who did Porter beat to make him so much more impressive than Marquez who just KOed Pac?

Marquez landed a hail-mary on Pac in a fight he was losing, he had multiple losses and was in his 40s. And this was in 2012. Porter was in his prime and was undefeated, and has been ranked higher than Marquez for years.

When was the last time Bradley/Marquez beat an undefeated ranked welterweight?

Chavez draw was one of the biggest robberies of the year.

Bradley had a close fight with Chavez and may have won a few more rounds, but Thurman destroyed Chavez. There's really no comparison.

And he absolutely dominated vargas for 11.5 rounds. Then he made a mistake.

One mistake like that against Brook or Thurman and he's gone. Vargas had him out on his feet and the ref called the fight off early.

Okay, if you know about the prov fight you'll know bradley wasn't listening to his trainer and chose to go toe to toe as he was depressed with all the hate he got after the first pac fight, he was literally suicidal.

And this shows a lack of intelligence/common sense in Bradley, which is a weakness that can be fatal in a big fight.

[Rip Chudd]

LMFAO I thought you just said you would never reply to me again? And here you are going back on your word, like a child online. Couldn't help but try to come back and save some face kid?

Thanks for showing everyone that you're an absolute joke whose word means nothing. Not even that Emamuel Stewart Avi can save you now.



Marquez is retired you dumb fk and hasn't been ranked in years, are you really gonna tell me that 40-year old retired Marquez is the #1 welter in the world and is better than Brook?

Man, you really must have been breast-fed by your dad. That wasn't milk dude, just saying.

Marquez hasn't retired, just hasn't fought in about two years, he was just in negotiations with Cotto. Pretty much the same 2 year period of grace you are giving Brook for fighting a top welter

Oh i'm sorry, did my reply frighten you. I know you thought you were in the clear, thanking God you wouldn't have to reply to yet again show how dumb you are.

Which is evident by you thinking me saying the Marquez's win over Pacquiao equates him to being number 1 at welterweight. Not only are you too dumb to figure things out on your own, you also get confused by your own questions. Here i'll help you out:

You: What fighters do you think can beat Brook:
Me: Spence, Bradley, Thurman

You: What win does any welter have better than Brook over Porter?
Me: Marquez's win over Pacquiao is more impressive

Now read the above, and maybe(just maybe) you can figure out they are different answers to different questions. Nobody in this thread said anything about Marquez being ranked #1 at welter. Why would they and he hasn't fought in 2 years?

[DeadLikeMe]

Not only is Brook now the best welterweight...He's this huge Hearns-esque welter who is just too great and too massive for the division.

[New England]

he beat portern, and then pacquiao and floyd retired.


i think thurman would probably beat brook, but that doesn't mean one can legitimately rank brook at the top. it's rare for one guy to beat a guy who is already on another fighter's resume and overtake him for the top spot, without fighting the top guy himself. t's really pretty rare to see a guy take the top spot without a h2h matchup, anyway, unless years or several fights have given us more to go on.

[therealpugilist]

He never was the best welterweight

Ring magazine rankings are not the end all be all of boxing,

Use common Sense

[New England]

He never was the best welterweight

Ring magazine rankings are not the end all be all of boxing,

Use common Sense

tbrb is a more partial source, and they've got brook over thurman.


how could you possibly rank anybody higher than brook after pacquiao and floyd had retired, and prior to thurman beating brook?


who did you have at the top at WW before porter - thurman?

[The Big Dunn]

I think you can make a case for either brook or thurman being the best ww in the world. Instead of them fighting each other we are getting brook taking a big payday just to get KTFO by GGG.

I would prefer it if GGG/Canelo settled MW and Thurman, Brook, Garcia and Bradley settled WW.

[therealpugilist]

tbrb is a more partial source, and they've got brook over thurman.


how could you possibly rank anybody higher than brook after pacquiao and floyd had retired, and prior to thurman beating brook?


who did you have at the top at WW before porter - thurman?

personally i saw it as wide open...Bradley has only lost to many but beat everyone else and fougt tougher competition than Brook, so has other fighters since he won the ibf..as of today I say thurman considering he has defeated Porter BUT his lower level wins are over better competition.