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  • #61
    Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
    I don't know what's funnier, your man love for a boxer or the fact you think it's absurd that top fighters have to fight and beat top fighters in their division to be considered the best
    I love these "I'm smart enough that I can just tell he's great" guys...
    Like Matthysee was "essentially an undefeated fighter", Bute was going to kill Froch, Broner was "the future", and David Price was "ready for Klitschko right now".

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Code Red View Post
      Look man you have made it clear that you are a Kell Brook fan not a boxing fan....fans for whatever reason dont like to look at facts and the fact is that Brook has not separated himself from any other welterweight title holder.
      Who has? So you could just as easily make the case for him as anyone else.

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      • #63
        Brook's performance against Gavin cemented his status as the #1 WW in the world.

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        • #64
          Hes the best welter tbh the thurman porter fight proved it.

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          • #65
            Bradley is number one in my book and Brook is a decent number 2, however the reality is, it's a clear field beneath Bradley at the moment. Khan, Brook, Porter, Thurman, Garcia all need to fight each other.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
              I swear you can't speak sense to ******ed fanboys so bear with me as I teach you something about a sport you claim to participate in
              And I swear ******s like this guy above think putting a picture of Emmamuel Stewart in his avatar gives him credibility so he can claim to "teach" people about boxing.

              Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
              (as if saying "Hey i boxed before" on an internet forum gives you credibility).
              As if I or anyone else gives a fk what you believe?

              Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
              Let's start with your first ******ed paragraph:

              Floyd actually fought and beat guys in the top of the division. He didn't get one decent win and go on two years of fighting Frankie Gavins and JoJo Dans. What's sad is his win over an older Mosley is better than anything on Brooks resume. How sad is that?
              I know you're trying to sound smart here, but damn, way to ramble on like a complete idiot about something absolutely irrelevant. Did I say Brook had a better resume than Floyd? No, dummy, I was making the point that just because Brook hasn't fought everyone, doesn't mean you can't judge his performances against the guys he's fought and realize he's the most skilled Welterweight in the world, a point that your ****** ass couldn't understand.

              And Old Mosley better than an Undefeated Porter? Dude you're just embarrassing yourself here.

              Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
              I hate to say that too as I like Brook, but his welterweight resume has 1 decent win. Just 1, and that was 2 years ago . If one decent win can ride out for so long we should of crowned Floyd king after Corrales, he didn't even have to fight again
              Brook may only have 1 great win, but the unfortunate fact is, that win is better than any other win that any other welterweight at the moment has.

              Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
              You can compare performances, nothing wrong with that, but you have to also look at resumes and Thurman's is better than Brooks at welterweight (which is saying a lot because Thurman's WW resume isn't even good). I'll hold Brook to the same standards as every other welterweight, they have to fight and beat each other to establish a number 1 guy
              As for Brook vs Thurman, performances against a common opponents tell us much more about fighters than their resumes. Brook gave Porter a boxing lesson, Thurman struggled in a fight many felt he lost. If you can't see the difference in skill then you clearly have no clue about the sport. Learn some boxing before you try to come off as some old-timer dude.

              Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
              You look weak resorting to name calling when your OPINION is challenged man. This is a grown up discussion. If you can't keep your man love for Brook and feelings in check then talk to someone else. Khantard and *****, what are you 12? I'm a boxing fan, you on the other hand seem to be a fan of a particular boxer.
              I find it hilarious you want to come off as mature poster and question my age, yet can't seem to stop talking about things like "man-love", like some 10 year old. Dude this is a boxing forum and we will support the fighter we think is best, if you can't handle the words coming your way and want to talk about man-love instead there are other sites for that my friend.

              Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
              I don't know what's funnier, your man love or the fact you think it's absurd that top fighters have to fight and beat top fighters in their division to be considered the best
              Brook beat Porter, the #3 guy in the division after Brook and Thurman. He handled the same opponent much more skillfully than Thurman. Spence is still just coming up and Garcia is average.

              The best don't always get to fight the best in this sport, and when that happens, we go by what we have seen.

              So again I ask you, who at WW do you think can beat Brook? You can't give an answer yet you want to b!tch like a baby when I say I think Brook is #1? Fk out of here dude.
              Last edited by Da Pimper; 07-11-2016, 05:25 AM.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Code Red View Post
                I keep hearing Triple G apologists say that Golovkin is fighting the best welterweight? When exactly did Brook become the best welterweight? When did he beat Spence, Thurman, Garcia, Khan, Bradley, Broner, or even the old fellas like May and Pac? Didn't this dude just beat Jo Jo Dan, Gavin, and somebody named Bizier....cong**** on the one name on his record Porter but is that all it takes to make him the best welterweight?

                Seriously I think British fans need to protest this fight, dont buy tickets, make it get cancelled.

                Where have you been for the last 3 years?

                Here is a thread for you.

                http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=686845

                Brook is a top 2 welter until proven otherwise.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Redd Foxx View Post
                  I love these "I'm smart enough that I can just tell he's great" guys...
                  Like Matthysee was "essentially an undefeated fighter", Bute was going to kill Froch, Broner was "the future", and David Price was "ready for Klitschko right now".
                  And I love people like this who post irrelevant bullsht when they can't counter an argument.

                  But lets actually breakdown your idiotic post since I'm feeling generous today. First of all, Matthyse did have several loses where he was out-boxed, while Brook is an actual undefeated fighter who has never been out-boxed, ever. Does your ****** ass not understand the difference?

                  Second Broner never proved himself against anyone as good as Porter before making the jump to Welter. Third, Price was known to have a glass-chin since his amateur days, while Brook has proven his chin is solid.

                  So next time you want to come off as a smart guy by drawing ridiculous comparisons, you might want to actually think before you post, so you don't sound like an absolute moron.

                  Originally posted by LoadedWraps View Post

                  Brook is a top 2 welter until proven otherwise.
                  Only a f10mo, khantard, or flat-out hater would deny this at this point.
                  Last edited by Da Pimper; 07-11-2016, 05:27 AM.

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                  • #69
                    I think he's the best WW around today. Have done for a while.

                    I think many on here rate him there or there abouts. As in the search function i found two polls/threads on the subject; and most people had him in their top 2. He was ranked number one in the poll thread.

                    These threads were from before the GGG fight was announced, so had no bearing on the posts at the time.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
                      I think he's the best WW around today. Have done for a while.

                      I think many on here rate him there or there abouts. As in the search function i found two polls/threads on the subject; and most people had him in their top 2. He was ranked number one in the poll thread.

                      These threads were from before the GGG fight was announced, so had no bearing on the posts at the time.
                      Yep. And then the GGG fight gets announced and they all want to trash Brook. Their agenda is so damn obvious.

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