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  • Because you cant even beat Kell Brook with a machete!

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    • Originally posted by Da Pimper View Post
      Please let us know the murderers row any other welterweight has fought that trumps Brook beating an Undefeated Porter and taking his belt. Your Marquez comparison is ****** since Brook's win over Porter is a lot more recent than anything Marquez has done, and Brook defended against 3 mandatories after recovering from a near-death attack while Marquez has done......... nothing.

      You can keep going on and on about Marquez and trying to change the subject, but the guy simply isn't relevant as of 2016 in the welterweight division. I know you can't read, but this thread is about whether or not Brook is #1 at Welter, and you have nothing left to say after all your points have been debunked.



      Dude, you are clearly a fake and very bad at it, just stop. When you try to act all mature and claim that you will never again respond to "kids" like me, and then the moment I reply you come storming back cursing like a kid, no one can take you seriously again. It's seriously cringe worthy.

      You're still trying to save face here and I'm actually embarrassed for you.



      Debatable, Pacquiao hadn't looked good in years and was coming off mediocre performances while Porter was young, was an undefeated champion and coming off the biggest win of his life.

      It's not always who you beat it's WHEN you beat them. Read that a few times and let it sink in.



      Ok, lets break this down for your ******ed ass again and we'll see who the dumb ranter is.

      You: Spence is better than Brook
      Me: Spence's win over Algieri can't compare to Brook's win over Porter.
      You: ..................

      Crushed.

      You: Bradley is better than Brook
      Me: Bradley hasn't beaten any top undefeated ranked welters while Brook beat an undefeated champion in Porter.
      You:...............

      Crushed.

      There, is that simple enough for you?



      Once again, his win over an undefeated champion in Porter is better than anything other welterweights have done, and I've explained why. Now I know you never made it past the 3rd grade and can't read, but mandatories are called mandatories for a reason. He fights them, or loses his belt.



      No, I gave Brook credit for a win he does have over Porter. You brought up Thurman and Spence. I explained clearly why Brook was more impressive than Thurman against the same opponent, and why Spence is still unproven.

      You've already lost yet you want to keep arguing for the sake of arguing even when deep down you already agree with me. Do you not see how pathetic this is? Of course you don't, look who I'm talking to. You just keep embarrassing yourself further and further.




      Again I know your dumb ass can't read and don't know anything about boxing, but once again fights won't just happen the second you want them to, and some fights may never happen.

      I don't give Brook the top spot by default, I look at his win over an undefeated Porter, look at the skills he showed, and compare that to Thurman and other welterweights, and I draw my conclusions. That doesn't make me a fanboy, it makes me a boxing fan.

      You on the other hand have contributed absolutely nothing to the discussion after all your points were debunked. You can't admit defeat and can't find a single welterweight better than Brook, so you just want to keep b!tching and moaning.
      No reason to break everything down as I now see you are making things up in your posts. Once you have no leg to stand on, which you haven't had in awhile and start to make things up that i've said, then you have clearly lost. It's ok, reading comprehension is hard sometimes, maybe one day you'll learn.

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      • Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
        No reason to break everything down as I now see you are making things up in your posts. Once you have no leg to stand on, which you haven't had in awhile and start to make things up that i've said, then you have clearly lost. It's ok, reading comprehension is hard sometimes, maybe one day you'll learn.
        Says the illiterate one. You've had no leg to stand on since the beginning buddy while I used actual boxing knowledge.

        Just make sure your dumb hating ass is here on Sep 10 when The Special One shocks the world. I'll be waiting.

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        • Originally posted by Da Pimper View Post
          Says the illiterate one. You've had no leg to stand on since the beginning buddy while I used actual boxing knowledge.

          Just make sure your dumb hating ass is here on Sep 10 when The Special One shocks the world. I'll be waiting.
          @ boxing knowledge. You are a loyal fanboy i'll give you that. But your ******ity doesn't equate to boxing knowledge. Sorry man.

          I will be here on the 10th though when GGG does what everyone expects and beats down Brook. Then you can rant some more about how he's the top welter cause he only got beat at middleweight. See you then

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          • Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
            @ boxing knowledge. You are a loyal fanboy i'll give you that. But your ******ity doesn't equate to boxing knowledge. Sorry man.

            I will be here on the 10th though when GGG does what everyone expects and beats down Brook. Then you can rant some more about how he's the top welter cause he only got beat at middleweight. See you then
            I'm not a fanboy, I'm a boxing fan 1st and foremost. You're just a ****** Brook hater.

            I won't need to rant, I'll be here running this place on the 10th once Brook schools Golovkin. I get the feeling you and the rest of the haters will be deep in hiding though.

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            • Brook was rated #1 after Pac left. Some lists put him as #2 after Thurman beat Porter.. which is ******, considering Brook beat Porter MUCH more handily than Thurman.

              I think we can agree for the most part that Pacquaio before retirement is the #1 WW. Then it just becomes an argument of what you value more - Brook's skills/undefeated resume or Bradley's trilogy with Pac. I personally think that Bradley is severely underrated, but Brook would probably beat him.

              The best, least biased organization has Brook as #1 WW with Thurman and Bradley right behind him. I see no problems with that ranking.

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              • Originally posted by Da Pimper View Post
                I'm not a fanboy, I'm a boxing fan 1st and foremost. You're just a ****** Brook hater.

                I won't need to rant, I'll be here running this place on the 10th once Brook schools Golovkin. I get the feeling you and the rest of the haters will be deep in hiding though.
                How exactly am I a Brook hater? I've given the dude nothing but props, i'm just not delusional to the point where I'll act like his last 3 defenses are noteworthy. The fact of the matter is he hasn't done anything since the Porter win, but protect his belt against domestic level competition, and that's the truth. He is getting nothing but praise for taking on GGG, Gennady is the one receiving the hate.

                This was never a discussion to say Brook sucks or isn't good. It was to say he isn't the top welterweight nor is anyone else until they prove it against each other. You know, holding everyone to the same standard.

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                • Originally posted by j0zef View Post
                  Brook was rated #1 after Pac left. Some lists put him as #2 after Thurman beat Porter.. which is ******, considering Brook beat Porter MUCH more handily than Thurman.

                  I think we can agree for the most part that Pacquaio before retirement is the #1 WW. Then it just becomes an argument of what you value more - Brook's skills/undefeated resume or Bradley's trilogy with Pac. I personally think that Bradley is severely underrated, but Brook would probably beat him.

                  The best, least biased organization has Brook as #1 WW with Thurman and Bradley right behind him. I see no problems with that ranking.
                  You probably mean that Brook held Porter better than Thurman.

                  Brook level of competition is lacking and he has had 7 fight since 2013 with one notable name.

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                  • Originally posted by STREET CLEANER View Post
                    You probably mean that Brook held Porter better than Thurman.

                    Brook level of competition is lacking and he has had 7 fight since 2013 with one notable name.
                    Did you watch the demolition of the great Kevin Bizier?After beating Bizier I thought to myself "Can anyone beat Brook?"

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                    • Originally posted by RealIzm View Post
                      Did you watch the demolition of the great Kevin Bizier?After beating Bizier I thought to myself "Can anyone beat Brook?"
                      Was not interested because that fight would prove nothing. That was after failed negotiations with Chaves and Rios. It is the same story with that guy, mention names and always a failed negotiation so they can excuses their bum of the month club

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