How is Brook Suddenly the Best Welterweight?

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And I love people like this who post irrelevant bullsht when they can't counter an argument.

But lets actually breakdown your idiotic post since I'm feeling generous today. First of all, Matthyse did have several loses where he was out-boxed, while Brook is an actual undefeated fighter who has never been out-boxed, ever. Does your ****** ass not understand the difference?

Second Broner never proved himself against anyone as good as Porter before making the jump to Welter. Third, Price was known to have a glass-chin since his amateur days, while Brook has proven his chin is solid.

So next time you want to come off as a smart guy by drawing ridiculous comparisons, you might want to actually think before you post, so you don't sound like an absolute moron.



Only a f10mo, khantard, or flat-out hater would deny this at this point.

This guy reminds of Diggler lol

[Rip Chudd]

I swear ******s like this guy think putting a picture of Emmamuel Stewart in his avatar gives him credibility so he can claim to "teach" people about boxing.



As if I or anyone else gives a fk what you believe? That Manny Avatar really got you believing you're some kind of old timer wise guy huh?



I know you're trying to sound smart here, but damn, way to ramble on like a complete idiot about something absolutely irrelevant. Did I say Brook had a better resume than Floyd? No, dummy, I was making the point that just because Brook hasn't fought everyone, doesn't mean you can't judge his performances against the guys he's fought and realize he's the most skilled Welterweight in the world, a point that your ****** ass couldn't understand.

And Old Mosley better than an Undefeated Porter? Dude you're just embarrassing yourself here.



Brook may only have 1 great win, but the unfortunate fact is, that win is better than any other win that any other welterweight at the moment has.



As for Brook vs Thurman, performances against a common opponents tell us much more about fighters than their resumes. Brook gave Porter a boxing lesson, Thurman struggled in a fight many felt he lost. If you can't see the difference in skill then you clearly have no clue about the sport. Learn some boxing before you try to come off as some old-timer dude.



I find it hilarious you want to come off as mature poster and question my age, yet can't seem to stop talking about things like "man-love", lol. FK out of here dude, this is a boxing forum and we will support the fighter we think is best, if you can't handle the words coming your way and want to talk about man-love instead there are other sites for that my friend.



Brook beat Porter, the #3 guy in the division after Brook and Thurman. He handled the same opponent much more skillfully than Thurman. Spence is still just coming up and Garcia is average.

The best don't always get to fight the best in this sport, and when that happens, we go by what we have seen.

So again I ask you, who at WW do you think can beat Brook? You can't give an answer yet you want to cry like a baby when I say I think Brook is #1? Man up.

I have an Emmanuel Steward pic and avi because I like to honor great trainers. I don't see why you are crying about it, but you're an idiot so I don't mind. man you're dense

Let me repeat this again because it seems to escape you: Brook has 1 decent win, in 2 years. He hasn't done anything of note since winning the title. He has fought a host of domestic level bums. You can't ride a win til the end of your career claiming you're the best, you actually have to prove that in the ring by fighting the other guys. Again, what's funny is it seems everyone here is holding those fighters to that standard except for you, which shows how idiotic you are.

The reason I talk about "man love" is because it is clear you have Brooks nuts hanging in your face and can't think for yourself. LacedUp is one of the biggest Brook supporters here but he is at least objective and can think for himself, unlike you it seems. Heck, I like Brook and think he is more talented than the other Welters, but he doesn't get crowned off of that alone, he needs to fight those other guys(sit there and think about that for a second as I know it hurts your brain).

Yes, beating Mosley coming off the destruction of Antonio Margarito(the top welter at the time) is better than Brook beating Porter who is coming off a win over Paulie Malignaggi. The fact that it has to be explained to you is further evidence of your ******ity.

I think there are a few welterweights that can beat Brook. Bradley, Thurman, Spence. I also think Brook can beat them. But here is the thing...THEY HAVE TO FIGHT EACH OTHER! You don't get crowned the best cause you like somebody, you actually have to put in work. Now I know you were blowing smoke about having boxed as you don't even understand the concept of putting in work

No need to keep going back and forth. This will be my last post explaining boxing to children. Have a nice day kid.

[Kagami Taiga]

This guy reminds of Diggler lol

I'm almost positive it's a Diggler alt. No1 **** rides Brook as much as he does. He'll be crying about something new when Brook gets KOd tho.

[Mr. Philadel]

Thurman has that hat atm...who has Kell beaten besides Porter?!?...NOBODY

[Rip Chudd]

Who has? So you could just as easily make the case for him as anyone else.

That's the point, nobody has really separated themselves as the top guy. That's why we're saying we'd like them to all fight each other to determine the best. Would of liked to see that play itself out but Brook is now fighting GGG instead of Vargas. Now we'll have to wait at least on him while the other guys hopefully fight each other. I think Garcia takes himself out of the race if he goes on to fight the Bertos of the world, he just got what he thought was gonna be a soft touch against Guerrero

[Rip Chudd]

I'm almost positive it's a Diggler alt. No1 **** rides Brook as much as he does. He'll be crying about something new when Brook gets KOd tho.

Nah, Diggler at least made sense at times and was a decent poster IMO. This guy thinks one decent win should last for years and place you atop a division no matter how many Frankie Gavins you fight after

[Da Pimper]

I have an Emmanuel Steward pic and avi because I like to honor great trainers. I don't see why you are crying about it, but you're an idiot so I don't mind. man you're dense

Not crying about it, just find it slightly funny because you clearly think having that avi bolsters your image when it really makes you come off as a pretentious fake. Either way no need to get all worked up and start name-calling at me for pointing this out.

Let me repeat this again because it seems to escape you: Brook has 1 decent win, in 2 years. He hasn't done anything of note since winning the title. He has fought a host of domestic level bums. You can't ride a win til the end of your career claiming you're the best, you actually have to prove that in the ring by fighting the other guys. Again, what's funny is it seems everyone here is holding those fighters to that standard except for you, which shows how idiotic you are.

And let me repeat this again for your ****** ass- Brook's one win is more impressive than what any other welterweight has on their record atm. And what's funny is that you deny this, yet can't name anyone with a better win than Brook's victory over Porter, so you resort to name calling.

The reason I talk about "man love" is because it is clear you have Brooks nuts hanging in your face and can't think for yourself.

Why, because I believe Brook is the best welter on the planet (which most boxing experts believe) and feel that he has a shot to beat Golovkin? Man, you need to grow the fk up, are you even old enough for a boxing forum discussion?

Yes, beating Mosley coming off the destruction of Antonio Margarito(the top welter at the time) is better than Brook beating Porter who is coming off a win over Paulie Malignaggi. The fact that it has to be explained to you is further evidence of your ******ity.

So you think a 40-year old Mosley with 5 losses and 1 win over Plaster Margacheato (who lost his plaster the same night) is a better win than an undefeated Shawn Porter? Boy, either you were dropped on your head as a kid or you were breast-fed by your dad because surely no one is this ******?

I think there are a few welterweights that can beat Brook. Bradley, Thurman, Spence. I also think Brook can beat them. But here is the thing...THEY HAVE TO FIGHT EACH OTHER! You don't get crowned the best cause you like somebody, you actually have to put in work. Now I know you were blowing smoke about having boxed as you don't even understand the concept of putting in work

And I have news for you too: Sometimes in boxing THEY JUST WON'T FIGHT EACH OTHER, EVER! If you don't know this then you don't even know what sport you're in. Boxing is a business, and when they won't fight, we need to go by what we have seen, and come to our own logical conclusions. And from what we've seen, Brook showed far more skills than Thurman against the same opponent.

No need to keep going back and forth. This will be my last post explaining boxing to children. Have a nice day kid.

Ok, I guess that means you have no answer to me asking you to name 1 win any Welterweight has that trumps Brook schooling Porter. Have a nice day kid.

Brook #1.

[Da Pimper]

I'm not picking sides here, but how about Bradley vs Marquez?

Marquez was in his 40s and had multiple losses to different fighters. The guy was really just a Pacquiao specialist. A young, hungry, undefeated Porter was far more dangerous than Marquez was at that point in his career.

Apart from Marquez, Bradley only has a robbery over Pacquiao and a win over Alexander (who Porter beat). Brook beating Porter himself is more impressive.

Bradley also drew with Diego Chaves and went life and death with Provodnikov and Vargas. Brook would shatter his chin.

[Rip Chudd]

I'm not picking sides here, but how about Bradley vs Marquez?

He went from "name me welters that can beat Brook" to "name me a welterweight who has a victory better than Brook". Moving the goalposts to further his agenda but was shot down by your above post

[Da Pimper]

He went from "name me welters that can beat Brook" to "name me a welterweight who has a victory better than Brook". Moving the goalposts to further his agenda but was shot down by your above post

Lmao what's wrong, too scared to reply to me directly?

I already asked you both questions and you had absolutely no answers. You really should stop before you embarrass yourself any further.

I'm almost positive it's a Diggler alt. No1 **** rides Brook as much as he does. He'll be crying about something new when Brook gets KOd tho.

I'm positive you're still butthurt from the other thread but can't win an actual debate with me regarding Brook, so you accuse me of being an alt since you have nothing intelligent to add to the discussion.

Brook won't be KO'ed, GG never faced anyone this slick, this skilled, this fast.