Would Canelo vs Brook be a mismatch in your opinion?

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  • boliodogs
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    #21
    I voted no. I don't think it would be a mismatch. I am reasonably sure Canelo would win. I think he is a little bigger and a little better than Brook. Canelo punches harder and has a better chin. Brook would put up a good fight but I think the stronger Canelo would wear him down with a body attack and finish him off in the late rounds. Brook might win a few rounds and land some hard punches.

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    • SugarRayCurtain
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      #22
      Not sure where people get the notion that Brook and Canelo are nearly the same size
      Canelo weighs 180 on fightnight, doesnt Brook weigh like 160lbs?
      Lets say he moves to LMW and weighs 165-170lbs on fightnight, hes still giving up 10 pounds.
      Canelo is a big MW, and is probably bigger than GGG. Unlike other MWs however hes willing to drain himself considerably to reach 154lbs.

      I think Canelo is a more complete fighter than Kell but Kell has straighter punches than Canelo, and probably has better handspeed.
      Canelo wins by TKO or decision

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      • Adonis Creed
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        #23
        This would be an even fight with Canelo slight size advantage and power but i think Brook might be a little more skilled.

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          #24
          Originally posted by -PBP-
          No. A mismatch has a predictable outcome. Canelo will obviously be the favorite but I don't think it's easy to predict how the fight will play out like Khan/Canelo and GGG/Brook.
          I'd agree. The numbers on the scales may be similar but the effect wouldn't be equal. With Khan, his natural attributes and vulnerabilities meant that the weight that he put on wouldn't do what it was designed to, which was to readdress the balance a little when fighting a bigger man.

          That isn't necessarily the case with Brook. He's a strong solid welterweight. His frame gives the impression that it could be built on. Khan looked a little fleshy partly because Virgil didn't want too much muscle compromising his speed and added weight wasn't going to correct the main issue, that at some point, when he got hit, the was fight over.

          Brook bulking up goes someway towards readdressing the pyshical disparity. It's in skill but particularly experience where I see a gulf opening up. I have Canelo pegged as the better boxer but he's also fought at a higher level against better, more varied opposition. He's seen a lot of styles and he seems to have learnt from the experience.

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          • boliodogs
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            #25
            Originally posted by SugarRayCurtain
            Not sure where people get the notion that Brook and Canelo are nearly the same size
            Canelo weighs 180 on fightnight, doesnt Brook weigh like 160lbs?
            Lets say he moves to LMW and weighs 165-170lbs on fightnight, hes still giving up 10 pounds.
            Canelo is a big MW, and is probably bigger than GGG. Unlike other MWs however hes willing to drain himself considerably to reach 154lbs.

            I think Canelo is a more complete fighter than Kell but Kell has straighter punches than Canelo, and probably has better handspeed.
            Canelo wins by TKO or decision
            Canelo has never weighed 180 on fight night. He usually weighs about 170 on fight night. Maybe they didn't show the fight night weights so you just guessed he weighed 180. Think about it. If Canelo weighed in at 154 and weighed 180 on fight night he would have gained 26 pounds in 30 hours. That is physically just about impossible. If it were possible to gain this much weight in such a short time it would hurt his performance, not help it. He would slosh his waterlogged self into the ring looking like he swallowed a water melon whole.

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            • gmc_rfc_06
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              #26
              Both highly skilled, both like to work at similar distance and both are generally excellent.

              Again though, Kell is a very big WW, Canelo is a very big Jr MW. In fights that are very close in the skill department, the bigger man usually wins.

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              • *TonyMontana*
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                #27
                Very legitimate fight in my eyes...brook has the skills to outbox Alvarez...Mc'Lovin likes this fight

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                  Regardless

                  Canelo is a better boxer than Brook, he is a more complete fighter.

                  Canelo's biggest weakness is his footwork, but that really won't matter against Brook.

                  Brook is not a complete fighter, no inside game, no body work. He's a head hunter. He gets caught very easily, especially by the right hand.

                  This prime version of Canelo will hurt him bad...

                  Like i said Brook is limited without his size advantage
                  You are underrating Brook's boxing skill and overrating Canelo's power.

                  I don't know where the idea that Canelo is a big power puncher came from. It certainly isn't justified by his record. He was hitting Cotto **** on and couldn't budge him.

                  Matthew Hatton was hurt much more by Brook's shots than Canelo's, despite giving away a lot more weight to the Mexican.

                  I think Brook would take Canelo's shots as well as Cotto and Hatton did, and have no trouble landing his own. 50/50 fight for me.

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                  • FrankieBruno
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by kafkod
                    You are underrating Brook's boxing skill and overtating Canelo's power.

                    I don't know where the idea that Canelo is a big power puncher came from. It certainly isn't justified by his record. He was hitting Cotto **** on and couldn't budge him.

                    Matthew Hatton was hurt much more by Brook's shots than Canelo's, despite giving away a lot more weight to the Mexican.

                    I think Brook would take Canelo's shots as well as Cotto and Hatton did, and have no trouble landing his own. 50/50 fight for me.
                    Nobody is underrating Brook

                    You are overrating him

                    He has one decent win on his record, and it was a close win via clinching

                    We have seen Brook go life and death with Carson Jones

                    You now want me to believe he can hang with Canelo?

                    lol

                    Brook should have stayed at WW, he had that size advantage, without this advantage he is dead meat.

                    Also he has been fighting cab drives back to back

                    Canelo has fought some solid top level fighters and has improved as a fighter, levels above Brook
                    Last edited by FrankieBruno; 07-10-2016, 09:49 AM.

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                    • Curtiz
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by FrankieBruno
                      Nobody is underrating Brook

                      You are overrating him

                      He has one decent win on his record, and it was a close win via clinching

                      We have seen Brook go life and death with Carson Jones

                      You now want me to believe he can hang with Canelo?

                      lol

                      Brook should have stayed at WW, he had that size advantage, without this advantage he is dead meat.

                      Also he has been fighting cab drives back to back

                      Canelo has fought some solid top level fighters and has improved as a fighter, levels above Brook
                      You must of missed the pull counters, brook landing 1/2s at will, check hooks...slipping and rolling porters punches

                      But yeh keep saying brook is basic, you'll see.

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