Why can't Team GGG pay Jacobs the 4-5 mil he asks for? Khan made 13 mil vs Canelo

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In order for Jacobs to make $4-5 million, GGG would have to fight him for free.

[Scipio2009]

Khan got more than 30%

GBP never wanted the GGG fight and never made an offer before Canelo ran away - it really is that simple

Amir Khan wasn't a mandatory defense, Amir Khan likely got the TV rights to the UK market, and had Al Haymon helping to lead the talks on his end (no doubt negotiating for pieces of every possible revenue stream).

All Golovkin and his camp had to do was say yes; 155lbs, 90/10 on everything (with Alvarez getting the Mexico TV rights, and Golovkin getting the Germany/possibly EU TV rights), Alavarez's camp leads the event, Alvarez can pick his gloves if he wanted, etc. The terms wrote themselves.

If Golovkin was really "that dude", he'd take whatever he needed to get Alvarez into the ring, whoop that ass, and then have a chance to launch into stardom.

He didn't; after doing **** business in his PPV debut, Golovkin and his camp had such a high view of themselves that they weren't even willing to concede a single pound for this 34-year old man's shot at superstardom, let alone talk of splitting the money.

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Do you think Jacobs is worth more than Golovkin? GGG made a career high $2 million to fight Lemieux. Jacobs made $1.5 million to fight Quillen, who made the same amount. What justifies a jump to $4-5 million to fight Golovkin? Canelo's people were willing to pay Khan $13 million, because they knew they'd make it up in the back end on Canelos' name. Khan accepted that amount, because he figured it would be worth getting KO'd for. Golovkin and Jacobs are both trying to raise their stock with big name wins. A realistic purse for this fight would be $3 million for Golovkin & $2.5 million for Jacobs.

First, I've yet to see a single actual source where Daniel Jacobs has ever asked for $4m-$5m to fight Gennady Golovkin; on it's face, that's actually a ridiculous thing to believe (Jacobs wanting something like 45/55 on the whole fight would be far more sensible).

Secondly, Amir Khan got nowhere near $13m to fight Alvarez; on just the rumors of what the event did, there's no way that Khan got that much, Alvarez was able to get significantly more than that, and Golden Boy didn't just lose it's entire ass on the fight.

[Scipio2009]

Golovkin is considered P4P whether you or I believe he deserves it or not. So, yeah, I think beating Golovkin would make a fighter a big deal. You disagree? Is that worth anything? 3 MW titles and the buzz of beating GGG?

Who was underpaid by GGG? Who have they lowballed? Give me numbers please. Was Wade worth half a million? How would K2 have been in a position to underpay Canelo or Cotto? Jacobs and Saunders want PPV money but they're not PPV worthy names. Neither was Lemieux who made $1.5mil and look what happened. Hell, GGG's not even a PPV headliner at this point. But he's most definitely a bigger star than Jacobs, Saunders, Lara, Lee, or Quillen. You think any of those guys bring in money without GGG?

Quillen and Jacobs each got $1.5mil for a fight in their hometown at Barclay's center in front of only 8,443 in attendance and and average of 386k on Showtime. After making over a million heading a pair of fights against two scrubs, Lara was paid $700k against Vanes in a fight that drew less than 500k on Showtime. Do I need to point out any more here? How much should these guys make in comparison to GGG if they were to fight?

Look at the payouts to the opponents for Golovkin's last 5 fights on HBO and weigh that against what fighters in the top 10 (at 154/160/168) have been getting to fight.

Can you point to a single fighter in that 30 (draw your list from wherever you have confidence) who would even fight a stumblebum for $500k? lol

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What were the ratings in Jacobs vs Quillim and the attendance?

What was the buyrate for Golovkin vs Lemieux and the gate?

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With respect to GGG he is absolute BEAST of a fighter but his Promotion don't have that type of money to throw away, how would they? It is not a Big Promotion at all so how would them come up with that big of a Purse then also pay their guy which would have be be more than what Jacobs makes

Fans talk like the Money is easy to get, then when the uncertainty of Boxing Fans and how a lot of us are so Fickle, it is not worth the investment if you don't know for sure if you will be able to make that money back and a profit

That could be the reason why they're extremely patient with Canelo with the hopes that Canelo will one day pick GGG as his opponent because to be honest that is really his only chance at a mega pay day is with Canelo

No different than Andre Ward, Golovkin could take a little bit less money to make fights. If the budget is $2m/$500k, what's the problem with Golovkin taking $1.8m to loosen up the money to offer more for better opponents. Heck, with Roman Gonzalez seemingly on the verge of getting his own show, some of that undercard money can be leveraged to make a better offer for opponents.

The fact that K2 seems to think that they don't have to be flexible to do business is silly.

[HeroBando]

Look at the payouts to the opponents for Golovkin's last 5 fights on HBO and weigh that against what fighters in the top 10 (at 154/160/168) have been getting to fight.

Can you point to a single fighter in that 30 (draw your list from wherever you have confidence) who would even fight a stumblebum for $500k? lol

Quillin and Lee got 500k to fight each other, the Wade purse

[sicko]

No different than Andre Ward, Golovkin could take a little bit less money to make fights. If the budget is $2m/$500k, what's the problem with Golovkin taking $1.8m to loosen up the money to offer more for better opponents. Heck, with Roman Gonzalez seemingly on the verge of getting his own show, some of that undercard money can be leveraged to make a better offer for opponents.

The fact that K2 seems to think that they don't have to be flexible to do business is silly.

Valid Point!

The issue is that I think fans think that Promotions can just come up with Big Money at anytime because of what Mayweather and Pacquiao was making but it is not that simple. Mayweather and Pacquiao generated so getting investors to buy into and back their fights was always a phone call away but in boxing today none of these current fighters have that luxury besides maybe Canelo

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No different than Andre Ward, Golovkin could take a little bit less money to make fights. If the budget is $2m/$500k, what's the problem with Golovkin taking $1.8m to loosen up the money to offer more for better opponents. Heck, with Roman Gonzalez seemingly on the verge of getting his own show, some of that undercard money can be leveraged to make a better offer for opponents.

The fact that K2 seems to think that they don't have to be flexible to do business is silly.

Now this is a good point. I think he should definitely take the Saunders fight as a discount because the reward for having all 4 belts in the division would be worth it. Nobody can come to 160 and become a champion without fighting him. Whether they are willing to take that risk is another story.

[icha]

Valid Point!

The issue is that I think fans think that Promotions can just come up with Big Money at anytime because of what Mayweather and Pacquiao was making but it is not that simple. Mayweather and Pacquiao generated so getting investors to buy into and back their fights was always a phone call away but in boxing today none of these current fighters have that luxury besides maybe Canelo

i think that this is the point the op is trying to make, ggg isnt as big as some of the golovkids said he is, his fights dont generate as much money...
you have a lot of fans talking about how much ggg generates world wide, he is such a global superstar, he is more popular than canelo, but yet cant seem to have enough money to get a decent opponent...
still 4 or 5 mil. will be crazy if true...