Why can't Team GGG pay Jacobs the 4-5 mil he asks for? Khan made 13 mil vs Canelo

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How did GGG's PPV do?

97k

Those are Mosely vs Mayorga II numbers.

The 97k guy says Mosley Mayorga did 3.3k so you're off 30x

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Q. If Jacobs has money backing him then why dont they make GGG an offer?

A. They dont want the fight

That guy also couldn't wait for the Wade mando cause Haymon was gonna take them to purse bid, win and get Ggg to forfeit his belt to Wade Canelo style. I **** you not.

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Q. If Jacobs has money backing him then why dont they make GGG an offer?

A. They dont want the fight

To hear folks here tell it, Golovkin is tied into some forever deal with HBO, lol.

Daniel Jacobs is mandatory challenger, Lou DiBella (NY promoter for PBC and the seeming promoter of Deontay Wilder, among others) is willing to spend more money on a fight than what K2 seems willing to spend, so we'll see what K2 and Golovkin do when DiBella wins the bid and Showtime is willing to put forward more money for the fight than HBO is.

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To hear folks here tell it, Golovkin is tied into some forever deal with HBO, lol.

Daniel Jacobs is mandatory challenger, Lou DiBella (NY promoter for PBC and the seeming promoter of Deontay Wilder, among others) is willing to spend more money on a fight than what K2 seems willing to spend, so we'll see what K2 and Golovkin do when DiBella wins the bid and Showtime is willing to put forward more money for the fight than HBO is.

The Jacobs fight isn't going to get done because of the networks. If it isn't a May/Pac fight they wont happen. A little bit out of topic...do you really believe Jacobs beats GGG?

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To hear folks here tell it, Golovkin is tied into some forever deal with HBO, lol.

Daniel Jacobs is mandatory challenger, Lou DiBella (NY promoter for PBC and the seeming promoter of Deontay Wilder, among others) is willing to spend more money on a fight than what K2 seems willing to spend, so we'll see what K2 and Golovkin do when DiBella wins the bid and Showtime is willing to put forward more money for the fight than HBO is.

And why would they bid 5m for their guy to get destroyed by an Hbo fighter? You think they're that incompetent?

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Alvarez, Cotto and even Martinez were A side and GGG would have taken less money, yet the fights never happened.

Quillin and Jacobs did horrible with the viewers and neither is a draw. Saunders was the draw so his was team responsible to pay him, but nobody would give Saunders the money he wanted.

You say in other posts that Jacobs has money backing him up. Where is that money? Why can't that money give him the 4-5 million he wants. I bet it's because he isn't worth it.

In situations where there's a clear A-side fighter, having the B-side try to impose conditions on the A-side (as Golovkin and his camp have consistently done) kills near all fights.

Quillin-Jacobs had a main event payout of $3m, with the payout to the fighters on the full card likely touching $4m, and no one involved in the fight was grumbling afterwards (Stephen Espinoza was giddy over the explosive KO win and the carryover post-fight, the Barclays Center was happy to be home to a Brooklyn champion, and Lou DiBella was out in force); imo, that says more about the fight that the TV rating (weigh that against Golovkin-Lemieux, where the only thing that K2 was willing to trumpet was some nonsense about the merch number and folks kept mum on basically everything else).

Jacobs vs Golovkin, for the WBC/WBA/IBF 160 belts in New York, is a bout that I see DiBella/Barclays Center/Espinoza/etc having no qualms with putting up the $4m-$5m to stage (with the way that Showtime has marketed Daniel Jacobs, I could see Espinoza putting up the money to stage the PPV for Jacobs-Golovkin).

Is K2/HBO willing to put up the money? I doubt it.

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In situations where there's a clear A-side fighter, having the B-side try to impose conditions on the A-side (as Golovkin and his camp have consistently done) kills near all fights.

Quillin-Jacobs had a main event payout of $3m, with the payout to the fighters on the full card likely touching $4m, and no one involved in the fight was grumbling afterwards (Stephen Espinoza was giddy over the explosive KO win and the carryover post-fight, the Barclays Center was happy to be home to a Brooklyn champion, and Lou DiBella was out in force); imo, that says more about the fight that the TV rating (weigh that against Golovkin-Lemieux, where the only thing that K2 was willing to trumpet was some nonsense about the merch number and folks kept mum on basically everything else).

Jacobs vs Golovkin, for the WBC/WBA/IBF 160 belts in New York, is a bout that I see DiBella/Barclays Center/Espinoza/etc having no qualms with putting up the $4m-$5m to stage (with the way that Showtime has marketed Daniel Jacobs, I could see Espinoza putting up the money to stage the PPV for Jacobs-Golovkin).

Is K2/HBO willing to put up the money? I doubt it.

What conditions did GGG impose on Martinez, or Cotto? As for Canelo he was being unreasonable wanting the fight at 155 for the middleweight championship. I'm glad he vacated and a true champion was established. Let Canelo try to go to 154, miss weight and then fight GGG in 2017 to get the beating he deserves.

Fights with fighters in different networks won't happen and I can bet no one was happy at the pathetic ratings Jacobs/Quillin had. Only so much time before investors find out that overpaying guys for fighting bums isn't the way things work.

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The Jacobs fight isn't going to get done because of the networks. If it isn't a May/Pac fight they wont happen. A little bit out of topic...do you really believe Jacobs beats GGG?

I think that Daniel Jacobs (along with Peter Quillin, Chris Eubank Jr, Demetrius Andrade, Julian Williams, to a lesser extent Billy Joe Saunders and Erislandy Lara, and at least 5-7 super middleweights) has the tools of the type of fighter that would wreck Golovkin.

According to BoxRec's measurements, Golovkin is all of 5'10, has 70" reach, and already has the wear on his body of being a 34 year old 10-year pro fighter who was in 350 fights before picking up the first check.

Daniel Jacobs is the younger man, is the significantly bigger man (height/frame), is the significantly longer man, can box coming/going, fights well on the inside, can crack with both hands, and has his own awkward switch-hit style that will give fits. To that, you can add that Jacobs isn't going to just stand there, let Golovkin set his feet, and tee off.

The Pirog fight six years ago (where he got nailed with that punch-perfect right hand in the 5th, a shot that Golovkin doesn't have in his arsenal) has me holding off on betting my money (how much punch resistance a 23-year old kid can pick up in 6 years I can't answer, but Jacobs can be knocked out), but folks have been ahead of themselves on the Golovkin hype for a while now, imo.

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Only so much time before investors find out that overpaying guys for fighting bums isn't the way things work.

Thurman made more money in the Collazo fight compared to his last fight with a riskier Porter. Same case with Lara fighting dilapidated Zaveck compared to a more competitive rematch with Martirosyan. Purses went in a downward direction. So there's definitely been some belt tightening happening there.

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And why would they bid 5m for their guy to get destroyed by an Hbo fighter? You think they're that incompetent?

Because you've got to **** or get off of the pot.

Daniel Jacobs is all of 29, he's won 11 straight fights, he's got support in his home venue, his TV broadcaster is backing him, and he's currently in the top 3 middleweights on planet Earth.

Rather than be *****es about it, a time comes when you've got to see how good your fighter actually is.

Jacobs takes the fight and beats Golovkin, he's the King of New York (with a story that you can run into launching him into stardom). If he loses, Jacobs at least set the stage for a massive event in taking the chance, he'd still be only 30 years old (with time to rebuild), and his performance would set the stage for him to stand tall in New York.

You duck the Golovkin fight, and what does Daniel Jacobs do instead? Billy Joe Saunders would be a good fight, and there's likely novelty in seeing the Quillin rematch, but every other MW fight that there is to make, at least for the next 1-2 years or so, would be basically tick-over fights.

Hilarious to see folks simply assume that the fight is a washout, knowing that Daniel Jacobs is level(s) better than anyone Golovkin;s ever fought and Golovkin is nowhere near as impressive when his opponent simply isn't standing there waiting to play "punch face" with him.