How viable is the PBC model?

[killakali]

And another thing. Boxing fans live in a bubble. They complained about Joe Smith Jr. They said "who's going to tune it to see Joe Smith Jr"? But what they don't realize is that casual fans don't know who Fonfara is either. Casuals aren't tuning in to watch Fonfara or Smith. They're tuning in to watch PBC boxing. Do you think the casual fan who watched tonight knew that Fonfara was supposed to win and hopefully fight Stevenson? Or hat Joe Smith Jr had never fought outside the eastcoast and was basically a no name? No. All they saw were two men fighting and an exciting KO. The average casual fan can probably only name Pacquiao, Floyd, Canelo, and maybe GGG. The biggest mistake PBC can make is to cater to the hardcore boxing fan. There aren't enough of us. GGG had the full support of the hardcore fans and media and was only able to sell 150,000 PPV's. If I were in the boxing business I would never cater to hardcore boxing fans. Most of them are miserable ****s who complain about everything.

actually the ratings will bomb and this will have right around 1 million views despite being in over 120 mil homes

[Scipio2009]

fonfara is fighting a construction worker.
enough said.

a "construction worker", as if that's the full extent of the man's resume. The man won the friggin New York Golden Gloves in 2008, before turning pro. With boxing not really paying the way starting off, the man went and got a job with worker's benefits and kept pushing his boxing.

The competition level was what it was, but it's not like he couldn't fight (21-1, 14-0 with 10 KOs over the last 14)

[killakali]

PBC doesn't have every fighter, but I'd be willing to argue that they have most, and possibly near all, of the fighters that matter.

No different, imo, than the conversations that were had when you had UFC and PrideFC both operating and thriving; UFC had the main US exposure and could tell the stories that the public believed, but it didn't take until Pride folded, and the consolidation largely happened, that the UFC no longer had to shill.

Haymon's orbit is soon to have the top heavyweight, top cruiserweight, top super middleweight, top junior middleweight, top welterweight, access to top lightweight, top featherweight, and top bantamweight fighter (with a large hold on the talent running through those divisions). You add the possibility of Andre Ward crossing back over the street with the belts at light heavyweight, and I don't see where any such delusion is coming from.

lol andre ward is locked in with rns

[Lester Tutor]

pbc has nothing to do with responsible safety and regulation. gtfoh smh. that is decided by the state athletic commission. promoters don't make the rules. dumbest post i've seen by far

Right. ..just coincidence... and as if commissions or the judges have no influence or "favors" from the networks that run it? This is boxing. ..

[killakali]

Right. ..just coincidence... and as if commissions or the judges have no influence or "favors" from the networks that run it? This is boxing. ..

if you have any brain watch any other show from the state of Illinois and it is the same rules as tonight just as any fight from vegas that is pbc top rank or gbp smh the promoter doesn't make the commission change their own rules smh smh smh

[Scipio2009]

Another negative: Errol Spence is on the broadcast tonight announcing that his next fight is on NBC.

Marv Albert asks him who he is fighting and he says they don't know yet. It's TBA.

Freaking bush league by Haymon. If you're going to try and leverage one broadcast in order to build interest for another then at least have all your **** together. This comes across as so unprofessional.

Errol Spence's next fight is the IBF eliminator; who the opponent is, in all honesty, doesn't matter. With Konstantin Ponomarev backing out and Lamont Peterson looking elsewhere, the next name on the list is apparently Leonard Bundu, but Spence is wisely not jumping the gun on anything.

Tune in on the August date that Erroll announced to watch the "Erroll Spence Jr Show" as he sets the stage for his first challenge at a world title after that.

[ShoulderRoll]

Errol Spence's next fight is the IBF eliminator; who the opponent is, in all honesty, doesn't matter. With Konstantin Ponomarev backing out and Lamont Peterson looking elsewhere, the next name on the list is apparently Leonard Bundu, but Spence is wisely not jumping the gun on anything.

Tune in on the August date that Erroll announced to watch the "Erroll Spence Jr Show" as he sets the stage for his first challenge at a world title after that.

Listen, I want PBC to succeed and have defended them on this forum many times.

But along with the good I also see the bad and the mediocre and I think it's important to point it out. Maybe if enough of us do that (in good faith) then it will force them to step their game up and deliver a more professional product.

It's in their best interest.

[Lester Tutor]

if you have any brain watch any other show from the state of Illinois and it is the same rules as tonight just as any fight from vegas that is pbc top rank or gbp smh the promoter doesn't make the commission change their own rules smh smh smh

What are you blabbing about? Do you honestly believe those stoppages from the cards wouldn't have more counts had they been on, with known refs, had it been HBO? It's not like they would've died nor anything like Ruslan vs Bradley. Watch Castillo vs Corrales and see if the ref would've acted the same.

[Scipio2009]

The ratings are terrible relative to the budget for each fight. This is something that escapes all the ******s on here who don't understand a thing about business. The thing has been nothing but a complete disaster with them putting all the best fights back on showtime and putting prospects on PBC. So, what was the point of blowing all that money?

Ignoring the shows in that first three months of PBC, what shows has actually had this ridiculous budget that folks keep harping on?

To hear folks here tell it, you'd think that PBC was paying out $3m a show or something.

PBC has consistently financed shows with $2m in payouts to fighters; not an exhorbitant amount of money to say the least.

[Motorcity Cobra]

actually the ratings will bomb and this will have right around 1 million views despite being in over 120 mil homes

Where do you work? Are you salary/hourly/self employed/ contractor?