Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: Canelo's Next Foes Will Reveal Golovkin Intentions

[Motorcity Cobra]

What a lot of people forget is that 1) The Charlo Bros. are not fighting each other. 2) Lara and Jermall are both trained by Ronnie Shields, so that's not happening. 3) The "Mandos" that you pointed out. When was the last time you saw 3 title fights in any division on the same card? Can Haymon get a little credit?

He'll never get any. But they never complain about HBO forcing fighters on their networks to fight each. The only fighter they forced to fight another fighter is the one with the best resume on the whole network. The only guy who cleaned out his division. GGG had been waiting for his WBC title shot since 2014 and the two fighters who held the belt both fought on HBO and he never got his shot. But they'll never complain about HBO forcing fighters to fight.

[kafkod]

The top men at 154 are

Jermall Charlo
Erislandy Lara
Jermell Charlo
Demetrius Andrade
Vanes Martirosyan
Julius Williams
Charles Hatley
Liam Smith
Willie Nelson

Jermall fought Trout and his next fight is against J-Rock
Lara fought Vanes and Trout
Jermell Charlo fought Julian Jackson for the vacant WBC title and his next fight is Hatley
Andrade just fought Willie Nelson and he's the mandatory for the winner of Hatley-Charlo fight
Vanes has fought Andrade, Nelson, Lara, and Jermell Charlo

The only cham in the division who hasn't fought anybody is Liam Smith. Show me another division where so many of the top fighters have fought each other and/or scheduled mandatories to fight each other

This ......

cut the smoke and mirrors. Jermell, Jermall, Lara, Andrade, Smith, J-Will are the top fighters at 154 and NONE as of today have fought each other. Other then Lara the rest are really unproven and we won't know how good they are until they fight each other.

[mathed]

hmmmm paulie forgot to mention the welters, I think he'll fight molina for his good showing last weekend

I would not be one bit surprised.

[bigdunny1]

What a lot of people forget is that 1) The Charlo Bros. are not fighting each other. 2) Lara and Jermall are both trained by Ronnie Shields, so that's not happening. 3) The "Mandos" that you pointed out. When was the last time you saw 3 title fights in any division on the same card? Can Haymon get a little credit?

That's not a good enough excuse for them to keep fighting lesser opponents. Why are these guys all occupying different belts then fighting one another? No credit for Haymon having them all fight on the same card when there are better fights to be made. And if they won't fight one another then somebody has to move up in weight to fight better fights. The brothers not fighting each other is the only pass I will give. Either move up or get a new trainer. And why do you need Mandos when all are in house fighters and there are no network complications? Haymon/Showtime can sign off on these fights at anytime.

[Bronx2245]

He'll never get any. But they never complain about HBO forcing fighters on their networks to fight each. The only fighter they forced to fight another fighter is the one with the best resume on the whole network. The only guy who cleaned out his division. GGG had been waiting for his WBC title shot since 2014 and the two fighters who held the belt both fought on HBO and he never got his shot. But they'll never complain about HBO forcing fighters to fight.

We're getting Thurman vs. Porter and Mares vs. Cuellar on CBS...FOR FREE! WTF???

[AfroLatinoCzr]

Andrade , charlos, lara, would be some good work for triple DUCKvkin

[Bronx2245]

That's not a good enough excuse for them to keep fighting lesser opponents. Why are these guys all occupying different belts then fighting one another? No credit for Haymon having them all fight on the same card when there are better fights to be made. And if they won't fight one another then somebody has to move up in weight to fight better fights. The brothers not fighting each other is the only pass I will give. Either move up or get a new trainer. And why do you need Mandos when all are in house fighters and there are no network complications? Haymon/Showtime can sign off on these fights at anytime.

Why didn't HBO make Canelo vs. GGG? Why didn't HBO make Ward vs. GGG? Why hasn't GGG moved up? Why hasn't HBO made Canelo go to 160? Why didn't Loma fight Walters? You just saw Charlo vs. Trout, with J-Rock fighting the winner. You just saw Charlo vs. Jackson, with Hatley waiting on the winner. You just saw Andrade vs. Nelson, and Lara vs. Martyrosin, all in the last what..30 days? Calm down Dunn!

[Boxfan83]

Until the top men at 154 stop avoiding each other, we don't how competitive the division is, or how they compare to the top dogs at 160.

Those guys won't fight each other and they won't move up and challenge themselves either. Isn't that what REAL fighters are supposed to do, either fight each other or move up and challenge themselves?

Thats the PBC way man, Haymon gets his guys a belt and then doesn't know what to do with them afterwards except have them fight the Willie Nelsons of boxing. The only time a PBC fighter will unify if its against a non-PBC fighter from a small promotion thats very beatable or an inside PBC fighter Haymon doesnt like.

[bronx7]

Paulie as a fighter good not elite no punch hindered him. He found his calling as the best commentator on any fight broadcast. He is insightful gives you the fighters prospective and describes action beautifully. Blows away merchant Bernstein Lampley jones foreman etc. kudos to new career

[bigdunny1]

Why didn't HBO make Canelo vs. GGG? Why didn't HBO make Ward vs. GGG? Why hasn't GGG moved up? Why hasn't HBO made Canelo go to 160? Why didn't Loma fight Walters? You just saw Charlo vs. Trout, with J-Rock fighting the winner. You just saw Charlo vs. Jackson, with Hatley waiting on the winner. You just saw Andrade vs. Nelson, and Lara vs. Martyrosin, all in the last what..30 days? Calm down Dunn!

Canelo vs GGG last I checked have different promoters and different managers? Same with Ward and GGG. There are political reasons. Haymon owns all these guys and is both manager and promoter to all except Andrade and Smith. You want to make excuses for why Haymon has all these fighters in camp and all we heard for years is why this is a good thing and will make these fights easier to make and yet it's basically the opposite. Perfect example Lara calling out Canelo and GGG when he's got a plethora of in house fights at 154 and 160.