GGG should fight Lara, and then Saunders, and if still no Canelo or Jacobs, either move up or just keep defending middleweight titles and try to break record for most defences.
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Originally posted by pakhtun View PostDoes Fortune realize that Canelo actually comes into the ring heavier than GGG, at around 180?Originally posted by cameltoe View Post...or that Canelo just fought a welterweight?
Yeah, he knows all these facts, but his mouth is up for rent.
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Originally posted by MC Hammer View PostIf he can cut the weight and feels more comfortable then he's probably not going out of his way to cut the weight.
To another point Jack, DeGale and the Dirrell's would be good and I honestly think all four beat him.
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Originally posted by MC Hammer View PostIf he can cut the weight and feels more comfortable then he's probably not going out of his way to cut the weight.
To another point Jack, DeGale and the Dirrell's would be good and I honestly think all four beat him.
So that last pound between 154 and 155 is the difference between comfortable and uncomfortable?
Seems to me he's just an entitled little bítch that feels like he's above the rules of the sport and doesn't feel inclined to fight at a real weight class.
And yes, Jack, the Dirrells, etc. would be quality wins in the eyes of real fans, but none of them are big names. No ppv, no big paydays. Just a bunch of kudos from NSB posters.
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GGG vs. "The Alien" at 168 or 170? It Almost Happened !
BY Bernard Fernandez ON April 27, 2016
Hopkins is no less complimentary toward Golovkin, who, with 16 successful middleweight defenses, has closed within four of tying the division-record held by B-Hop.
“You can’t take nothing away from `Triple G,’” said Hopkins, who has not yet closed the book on his Hall of Fame-quality career at the ridiculously advanced age of 51. “He’s talking about breaking my record. What’s he need now, five more wins? If it happens, I hope to be there so I can personally salute him.
“I know people say he hasn’t been tested, but you never know who’s going to show up on a given night and give him that test. The so-called experts can’t always predict who’s going to win. Sometimes they’re wrong. All I know is that he keeps mauling the guys they put in front of him.”
But Hopkins knows a thing or two about leverage, and as a key figure in the Golden Boy hierarchy he doesn’t want Golovkin’s inexorable march toward his record to include a conquest of Alvarez, 25, who is the linchpin to the company’s long-term success. If the big fight happens, and Hopkins hopes it will, all well and good. Still, the fight before the fight takes place behind closed doors where contractual matters are finalized. If there is a possible parallel between Alvarez-Golovkin, Hopkins sees it as the April 6, 1987, pairing of Sugar Ray Leonard and Marvelous Marvin Hagler, with Canelo cast in the role of the terms-dictating Leonard.
“If Steph Curry don’t play in the playoffs, his team is probably not going to repeat as the champion,” Hopkins said. “Canelo is like Steph Curry to Golden Boy. Of course we’re going to position him in such a way to maximize all his assets. But in saying that, you got to remember one thing: We don’t need `Triple G.’ He needs Canelo. At the end of the day, the fighter that holds all the cards would be a fool not to use that.
“Look, Oscar has or might make some decisions he might be criticized for – no, he will be criticized for – but so what? He is in the business of being a promoter. As a fighter, he dared to be great. As a promoter, he can’t dare to be ******. He has to make the right business move for his fighter, and the fact is that `Triple G’ stands to gain more from winning that fight. Of course, if Canelo wins, he becomes even more of a megastar than he already is. But he’s a megastar already.
“There will be a dialogue, a negotiation, and when it happens `Triple G’ won’t be operating from a position of strength. Look, I can remember when I couldn’t get the fights I wanted for a lot of reasons. Some of it was political. Some of it was personal. When push comes to shove, though, you do what you have to do.
“When I was the (light heavyweight) champion, I had to take off five pounds to make the Winky Wright fight, the Kelly Pavlik fight. I had a catch weight fight with Oscar when I had three middleweight championship belts and Bob Arum (then De La Hoya’s promoter) said the only way that fight would ever happen is if I agreed to come in at no more than 158 pounds. I could have *****ed and hollered about sweating off the extra weight, but I wanted the fight to happen. Was the money great? Yes. But I wanted to fight the best, and if I beat Oscar, God only knows what could happen after that. And, well, we know now what happened next...”
To their credit, Hopkins and Golovkin were prepared to risk much to spare HBO viewers and on-site spectators at the Forum a fight that was the equivalent of killing a spider with a sledgehammer. Hopkins, who has not fought since he went the distance in a unanimous-decision loss to Kovalev, the light heavyweight version of Golovkin, on Nov. 8, 2014, has been pining for a farewell fight before officially ending his 28-year pro career, and he wanted it to be something of consequence. Turned down for shots at the super middleweight championships held by James DeGale (IBF) and the since-dethroned Arthur Abraham (WBO), he lobbied for an intriguing go at Golovkin.
“I thought it was,” Hopkins said of the possibility that the fight might take place. “But, you know, the sand runs out of the hourglass sometimes. I was serious about wanting to do it. Golden Boy was involved in some conversations with (Loeffler), but nothing came of it. There’s a lot of posturing that goes on in this business before anything actually happens.”
Loeffer said K2 Promotions was serious about making Golovkin-Hopkins. No, it wouldn’t have been for another slice of the middleweight championship pie, but it would have been against a former undisputed middleweight titlist, a future Hall of Famer and a guy who had snapped Kovalev’s nine-bout knockout streak, albeit in a losing cause, and has never been stopped himself. Oh, and it would have been a helluva lot more interesting that Golovkin-Wade.
“There was interest on our side,” Loeffler acknowledged. “We have a lot of respect for Bernard, who we got to know pretty well for the fight with Lemieux (who is part of the Golden Boy stable). It’s a fight we could have made happen at 168 pounds, and it would have been a good story. Going into the Kovalev fight, there were a lot of people who picked Bernard to win, and he did go the distance. I think it would have been interesting to find out if Gennady could become the first man to knock out a legendary fighter who has never been knocked out.
http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...most-happened-
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I'm No GGG fan by no means, He should move up and challenge himself, but that should be his choice. If he wants to make a name in history, he needs those big fights. He should have took that Ward fight.
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To defend a fighter that's pretty much doing the same thing is being a hypocrite at it finest. Canelo just fought Khan!
Yes, it was for the money but not the challenge.
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At this point, I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Porky Medina, to get a feel for the higher division, instead of the next Wade. That would be war, as long as it lasts.
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