Comments Thread For: Showtime Sues Top Rank: Mayweather-Pacquiao Legal Fee Dispute

[travestyny]

did bob really bite? it is all air and nothing more....

what you wrote clearly indicates nsac failed to act fairly in pac's request and on the iv issue.....

"The NSAC had nothing to do with the IV issue,"

nsac is the boxing governing body...

does nsac has to wait for an appeal to set the line straight who really between nsac and usada has the authority to issue tue? usada is just a testing agency.... again, nsac is the boxing governing body.....why would the iv and tue issues be sacrosanct and beyond nsac control? because usada was handpicked by floyd? so it has the final say?

and a tue 3 weeks late? ha ha ha

I disagree with you. What I wrote shows that Arum lied. He stated that he sent NSAC proof of Pac's injury one week before the fight. NSAC denied that claim, and then Pac's team went silent about sending them paperwork about the injury. It was a clear lie and he tried to place blame on NSAC. I feel that's the sole reason NSAC threatened Pacquiao.

As for the IV issue, it's simple. We've told this to you guys billions of times. The IV was not against NSAC's rules. The infusion of IV fluids at the amount Floyd took is prohibited BY WADA without a TUE. NSAC is not a signatory of WADA, therefore it did not concern NSAC.

It seems that the commission's rules allow them to take more action immediately before the fight when the fighters are present. Drug testing was controlled by USADA, but the commission governs immediately before the fight. I would assume that had Mayweather attempted to take an IV at 6pm at the venue the day of the fight, NSAC would have had to make a judgement call about it. Just as Pacquaio was allowed to take the pain medication before the fight, but not at 6pm the day of the fight, and NSAC explains why:

"These are not prohibited substances. But why they might be, on fight night, by the commission, is you want the fighter to enter the ring in a natural state. Had we known prior to (the fight), we would have sent any (exam results) over to the doctors to review and come up with a treatment plan for Mr. Pacquiao that is acceptable to commission doctors."

It was USADA's job to get them to the venue clean. NSAC can't sit by and allow them to go dirty immediately before entering the fight. And yes, Toradol would mean that Pacquiao was not fighting at a natural state.

[tangalog2200]

I disagree with you. What I wrote shows that Arum lied. He stated that he sent NSAC proof of Pac's injury one week before the fight. NSAC denied that claim, and then Pac's team went silent about sending them paperwork about the injury. It was a clear lie and he tried to place blame on NSAC. I feel that's the sole reason NSAC threatened Pacquiao.

As for the IV issue, it's simple. We've told this to you guys billions of times. The IV was not against NSAC's rules. The infusion of IV fluids at the amount Floyd took is prohibited BY WADA without a TUE. NSAC is not a signatory of WADA, therefore it did not concern NSAC.

It seems that the commission's rules allow them to take more action immediately before the fight when the fighters are present. Drug testing was controlled by USADA, but the commission governs immediately before the fight. I would assume that had Mayweather attempted to take an IV at 6pm at the venue the day of the fight, NSAC would have had to make a judgement call about it. Just as Pacquaio was allowed to take the pain medication before the fight, but not at 6pm the day of the fight, and NSAC explains why:

"These are not prohibited substances. But why they might be, on fight night, by the commission, is you want the fighter to enter the ring in a natural state. Had we known prior to (the fight), we would have sent any (exam results) over to the doctors to review and come up with a treatment plan for Mr. Pacquiao that is acceptable to commission doctors."

It was USADA's job to get them to the venue clean. NSAC can't sit by and allow them to go dirty immediately before entering the fight. And yes, Toradol would mean that Pacquiao was not fighting at a natural state.

arum lied? is that still an issue to you? i stated before that arum was all air.....

i can see you try to separate nsac from usada....

but nsac as the governing body has to oversee that usada also has to play by the rules and/or agreement....so if usada adheres to wada codes and it did not do that in the pac vs may bout, then nsac can not just wash its hands and point out that nsac is not a signatory to wada codes....

and nsac should have been more vigilant on this as floyd handpicked and pay usada.....

the 3 weeks late tue stands out and smell yuk....

[elfag]

So showtime is suing because pacquiao was injured? So fu cking ******. whats the point? Haymon got his hand so far that puppets espinoza's ass is fu cking pathetic.

read the article phaggot

[aboutfkntime]

arum lied? is that still an issue to you? i stated before that arum was all air.....

i can see you try to separate nsac from usada....

but nsac as the governing body has to oversee that usada also has to play by the rules and/or agreement....so if usada adheres to wada codes and it did not do that in the pac vs may bout, then nsac can not just wash its hands and point out that nsac is not a signatory to wada codes....

and nsac should have been more vigilant on this as floyd handpicked and pay usada.....

the 3 weeks late tue stands out and smell yuk....

Uh, no they don't ?

NSAC doesn't regulate USADA.

USADA is contracted by the fighters/promoters, right ?

And the ONLY entity they are accountable to, is WADA.

Right ?

Can anyone else confirm if that is correct ?

[tangalog2200]

Uh, no they don't ?

NSAC doesn't regulate USADA.

USADA is contracted by the fighters/promoters, right ?

And the ONLY entity they are accountable to, is WADA.

Right ?

Can anyone else confirm if that is correct ?

The above arrangement is so flawed as had been observed that a move to correct this problem has been addressed by nsac as follows:

In the parallel world of anti-doping efforts of combat sports there is potential for friction between regulatory bodies and privately contracted anti doping agencies. The State of Nevada is looking to clarify these parallel schemes with an overhaul to the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s regulations.

The proposed regulations, which not only will open the books between the UFC and USADA and also the WBC and VADA, also specifically require privately contracted anti-doping agencies to be approved by the NSAC, to share results with the NSAC, and to make the results public records. The overhauled regulation will read as follows –

NAC 467.465 Contracts to perform drug testing must be approved by the Commission (NRS 467.030)

1. The Commission must approve, in advance, any contract between a promoter and third party to perform drug testing. The Commission is authorized to reject any or all third party contracts. The Commission is authorized to reject any third party contract for drug testing that is or may be performed by the Commission pursuant to NAC 467.462.

2. The Commission shall be provided complete results of all tests performed by any approved third party.

3. All contracts and test results may become public records pursuant to NRS Chapter 239.

[travestyny]

arum lied? is that still an issue to you? i stated before that arum was all air.....

i can see you try to separate nsac from usada....

but nsac as the governing body has to oversee that usada also has to play by the rules and/or agreement....so if usada adheres to wada codes and it did not do that in the pac vs may bout, then nsac can not just wash its hands and point out that nsac is not a signatory to wada codes....

and nsac should have been more vigilant on this as floyd handpicked and pay usada.....

the 3 weeks late tue stands out and smell yuk....

So you are saying that USADA didn't play by the rules of WADA? I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion or how you could prove that. Allowance of a retroactive TUE existed in WADA's ISTUE before this fight, and is still present there to this day.

[screwhead1]

And I hope they pay dearly for that dumbass lie.

[MDPopescu]

Even one full year later, boxing fans just can't seem to shake off the massive letdown that came with the long-awaited and ultimately disappointing showdown between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao last May.

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... This lawsuit is PR only...
... Pac was OK for (how long?) four rounds? He could have KOd Floyd within those four rounds -- therefore no "legal issue" whatsoever.

[aboutfkntime]

The above arrangement is so flawed as had been observed that a move to correct this problem has been addressed by nsac as follows:

In the parallel world of anti-doping efforts of combat sports there is potential for friction between regulatory bodies and privately contracted anti doping agencies. The State of Nevada is looking to clarify these parallel schemes with an overhaul to the Nevada State Athletic Commission’s regulations.

The proposed regulations, which not only will open the books between the UFC and USADA and also the WBC and VADA, also specifically require privately contracted anti-doping agencies to be approved by the NSAC, to share results with the NSAC, and to make the results public records. The overhauled regulation will read as follows –

NAC 467.465 Contracts to perform drug testing must be approved by the Commission (NRS 467.030)

1. The Commission must approve, in advance, any contract between a promoter and third party to perform drug testing. The Commission is authorized to reject any or all third party contracts. The Commission is authorized to reject any third party contract for drug testing that is or may be performed by the Commission pursuant to NAC 467.462.

2. The Commission shall be provided complete results of all tests performed by any approved third party.

3. All contracts and test results may become public records pursuant to NRS Chapter 239.

So, I was right.

Currently..... NSAC doesn't regulate USADA, they are contracted by the fighters/promoters..... and the ONLY entity they are accountable to, is WADA.

It would be much better if the commission did regulate USADA, or at least oversee the entire process..... they need to be more involved, and the results should definitely be on public record.

[tangalog2200]

So, I was right.

Currently..... NSAC doesn't regulate USADA, they are contracted by the fighters/promoters..... and the ONLY entity they are accountable to, is WADA.

It would be much better if the commission did regulate USADA, or at least oversee the entire process..... they need to be more involved, and the results should definitely be on public record.

yes, the governing body must have full control over the affairs of the boxing event....

if the pac vs floyd bout was seen as not up to expectations, the changes derived will benefit boxing....