Comments Thread For: Sugar Ray Leonard: I Told Mayweather I Would Have Beat Him

[Jc8804]

Ray would have kicked floyds azzz.

This isnt even a debate

Ray has fought better fighters than floyd
And floyd hasnt fought any ray caliber fighters at any weight ever. Not even close

[The D3vil]

Smdh TBE haters are out of control these days. Only Floyd can "duck" guys who fought in completely different eras. Should FMJ create a time machine and go back to June 20th 1980 and fight the Montreal Duran? Or maybe go to 1945 and fight Ray Robinson? Smh wtf lmbao

Listen moron, I was talking about Sugar Ray, Hagler, Hearns, and Duran ducking McCallum and Jackson.

Learn to read.

[SkillspayBills]

These are two of the most talented and skilled boxers to ever exist. It would be aa tactical bout I switch between who I think would win regularly.

[SouthPawHitman]

Listen moron, I was talking about Sugar Ray, Hagler, Hearns, and Duran ducking McCallum and Jackson.

Learn to read.

Stay salty hater.

[The D3vil]

Stay salty hater.

[MurkaMan]

[QUOTE=sugar ray lenrd;16742212][QUOTE=MurkaMan;

Sugar Ray: Son, you're bitting more than you can chew

MurkaMan;
Floyd is identical, he is just sharp af while doing it! Completely different, perfect technique, turns his punches over. You throw a punch at Floyd and it gets within an inch of his face, and he doesnt even blink an eye, because he knows its not close enough to land!

Sugar Ray:
Anyone can do that fighting mediocre competion against the likes of Hatton, Guerrero, Gatti, Baldimor, & the king of lightwgts Marquez...

MurkaMan;
I said that Pac and Floyd were his smallest foes! So of course they are small welters! I actually think Pac would bloody Duran! Pac is from the future, while Duran is a lower level version of Pac(Like SRL and Floyd)

Sugar Ray:
Ok if we are going to debate lets leave the name calling aside....and lets really talk sense. You are implying that all futre fighters would whip all the fighters of the past, that my friend is proposterous, any Floyd fan would disagree with you on that.

MurkaMan;
Pac was throwing a thousand blistering punches from all angles, footwork, endless stamina, mortal combat types of punches and I think prime Pac would murder Duran! Its not fair to compare fighters of an outdated era to fighters from the future!

Sugar Ray:
Sure ...lotsa of medication...

MurkaMan;
And Ray absolutely does NOT have equal amount of reaction time! Floyd changes gears from fight to fight. And never would be SRL be faster, but lets allow him to be faster this once okay?

Sugar Ray:
Explain to me in details how is floyds reaction time better than Ray?

MurkaMan;
Speed wouldnt get a fighter like that, a victory over a fighter like Floyd! Completely different caliber of fighter!

Sugar Ray:
Totally agree with you here...because not only does Ray has speed, he has Power & a steel chin & great stamina

MurkaMan;
And Floyd has slowed down but he has multiple primes! The Floyd who faced Gattie would BLITZ any version of SRL!

Sugar ray: Gatti? RIP...but he ain't even close to Ray's level

MurkaMan;
The Floyd who faced JMM would humiliate him and capitalize on every single mistake he makes!

Sugar Ray:
Dude he fought get shorty!

Sugar Ray:
Errr I have to get back to work,,,washing toilets...but it pays the bills

See ya.... Gatti, JMM...The murder rodes of the Welterwgt division...[/QUOTE]
Boy their is not a fighter in the HISTORY of the sport that can fight Floyd's opponents and show HALF the skills Floyd showed Lol

And look at the circumstances of Floyd's victories! SRL was the same size as most of his foes, while Floyd was 15lbs smaller than MOST of his foes! SRL had power to hurt his foes, while Floyd did not! He had to dominate them on PURE skills!

This will never ever happen again in the history of the sport!

If SRL was at Floyd's circumstantial disadvantages, and faced the SAME opponents, he would get his azzwhipped Lol

And I dont think ALL of the future fighters are better than all of the past fighters! I think the ATG's of our era, are out of sight, in comparison to the throwback ATG's! Imagine SRR trying to figure out Pac and Floyd. SRR fought in the 1900's Lol

And I already explained Floyd's reaction time! He trains to make his opponents look flatfooted and dumb! He melts in between your movements, like water!

But he changes gears for each opponent. So if your faster than him, by the time you fight, he will be faster than you! As I stated in the Marcos and Pac fights!

I didnt compare SRL to Gatti! I compared the Floyd who faced Gatti, to other versions of Floyd! Gatti wasnt the problem, Floyd was the problem!

[monkeyboy]

It's all opinion. I'm still picking Mayweather to win.

On a night with no injuries and no distractions, no one has come remotely close to beating Floyd Mayweather in his prime. The most intriguing part of the matchup to me would be the selection of the ref. If we got an 80s ref for the fight, I could definitely see Leonard winning.

Again though, I would not be disappointed if either fighter lost.

Ok. But I'd be interested to see if you dispute the three points I made.

[aboutfkntime]

These are two of the most talented and skilled boxers to ever exist. It would be aa tactical bout I switch between who I think would win regularly.

Same. I wouldn't bet 1 red cent on that fight.

That fight is harder to pick than a broken nose.

Mayweather's skill-set means that he will be right there with anyone.

But, Hearns was working Leonard, and then.....

[The plunger man]

His best years, the favored prime years was before Douglas feb 11, 1990.

Ask boxing fans his prime years. They will say that.

# don't take everything literal

. You are right with this spoon. And of course leonard beats mayweather by TKO ...leonard was way to much for floyd to handle

"At your best" does not mean in your prime. Those aren't interchangeable terms. I take things literally because using words like "prime" and "focused" when referring to athletes actually means something.

Mike Tyson was physically prime until at least 1996, and I'd say his "best years" span from '88 to '96. Before Holyfield, and barring the Douglas hiccup, he effortlessly destroyed everyone else. He was mentally finished after Holyfield took him apart.

Tyson's style of fighting was based on a young mans style.....he reached physical maturity at a very young age for a heavyweight , his sole aim on winning was based on explosiveness and to incapacitate his opponent as quickly as possible and that's all to do with his physical attributes at that weight....for instance his reach was the length of a marvin Hagler at middleweight 75 inches instead of an 82 reach , his height also was 5ft 11 max ! so mike Tyson reached his peak I would at 21 or 22 and most probably the night he beat Michael spinks....it's genetics of your body that decides when you are at your prime. for instance you take running most 100 metre runners are of powerful build and short...designed for explosiveness out the blocks and normally they are more youthful....however a marathon runner will reach maturity at a more mature age say 28 or 30 and they are of slim build for less stress on the joints over a long distance and more stamina and endurance.....so tyson reached his prime at 21 and then was at his utmost prime for another 2 years and then faded really quickly ...there was no way he could have kept his prime for more than 2 or 3 years due to his fighting style and build.....so doom spoon is right on this

[The plunger man]

Same. I wouldn't bet 1 red cent on that fight.

That fight is harder to pick than a broken nose.

Mayweather's skill-set means that he will be right there with anyone.

But, Hearns was working Leonard, and then.....

Ray leoanrd beats mayweather..u know it as well as I do shagger , leonard could do everything , box on the back foot ,make a counter puncher lead , go toe to toe with an animal and hold his own , he could KO yiu in the 1st or the 15th , handspeed as quick if not quicker and much quicker with his combination punching , gr8 body puncher and when he hurt he was ruthless...leonard was just a naturally bigger fighter with more fire power and just as much boxing abilty...floyd has a better defence but that's not enough to keep leonard off him....Sugar ray stops mayweather about the 10th or 11th round