Comments Thread For: Sugar Ray Leonard: I Told Mayweather I Would Have Beat Him

[Spoon23]

you have made an art-form out of taking L's

Naah..

I made an art form In making fl0mos cry like little pussay cats more like it lol

[Spoon23]

to be fair after 1988 tyson was never the same, he stopped training and didnt give a **** about bobing and weaving and just came straight forward. So yes technically 1990 version of tyson was "past prime" even though he was young in age he just didnt train and had too many outside problems, so he declined by then. Even before the douglas fight you could see tyson was getting worse. If you stop training you lose your prime no matter the age. When Ali fought Frazier, Ali was 28 but was past prime cuz he had the 3 year ban, and didnt box.

Yup, that's about raps it up.

Doom specialist wiping his wounds somewhere lol

[doom_specialist]

to be fair after 1988 tyson was never the same, he stopped training and didnt give a **** about bobing and weaving and just came straight forward. So yes technically 1990 version of tyson was "past prime" even though he was young in age he just didnt train and had too many outside problems, so he declined by then. Even before the douglas fight you could see tyson was getting worse. If you stop training you lose your prime no matter the age. When Ali fought Frazier, Ali was 28 but was past prime cuz he had the 3 year ban, and didnt box.

I already said that Tyson had outside issues, but to say that he was not physically prime is just reaching and/or being stupid for the sake of trolling. Boxing is a thinking man's game, and he lost because he was a mental midget. Douglas came to win, and he didn't. It's the nature of the sport. Floyd Mayweather had a torn rotator cuff the night he looked bad against Castillo, but guess who didn't make excuses? That's all I'm saying.

"Prime" refers to the physical prime of your life. When you have the potential (because most people do waste their primes) to be at your fastest/strongest/etc. Ali indeed lost to Frazier after a long layoff (once), but by no means was he not physically prime. Their 2 subsequent fights show you that. If you take a look at Tyson vs Spinks, and then Tyson vs Douglas, you'll see that Tyson was definitely still prime physically. Saying any fighter is out of their prime at 23 is just dumb. I don't know any other way to put it. Mayweather at 38 was ultra focused, but would you be dumb enough to say he was in his prime?

TL;DR "focused" and "prime" are 2 different things, and semantics arguments are stupid. Keep in mind that none of those stupid/dumb/******ed remarks are towards you. Just making my point

[Spoon23]

I already said that Tyson had outside issues, but to say that he was not physically prime is just reaching and/or being stupid for the sake of trolling. Boxing is a thinking man's game, and he lost because he was a mental midget. Douglas came to win, and he didn't. It's the nature of the sport. Floyd Mayweather had a torn rotator cuff the night he looked bad against Castillo, but guess who didn't make excuses? That's all I'm saying.

"Prime" refers to the physical prime of your life. When you have the potential (because most people do waste their primes) to be at your fastest/strongest/etc. Ali indeed lost to Frazier after a long layoff (once), but by no means was he not physically prime. Their 2 subsequent fights show you that. If you take a look at Tyson vs Spinks, and then Tyson vs Douglas, you'll see that Tyson was definitely still prime physically. Saying any fighter is out of their prime at 23 is just dumb. I don't know any other way to put it. Mayweather at 38 was ultra focused, but would you be dumb enough to say he was in his prime?

TL;DR "focused" and "prime" are 2 different things, and semantics arguments are stupid. Keep in mind that none of those stupid/dumb/******ed remarks are towards you. Just making my point

So when was Tyson's prime to you in his career?

Mind you every athlete has that. Tyson does too. Don't take everything literal. It's when he was at his best is the clue.

here's another clue.. 1985-2005 pro career

Mike Tyson Highlights - Destroyer In Prime

[anonymous2.0]

Naah..

I made an art form In making fl0mos cry like little pussay cats more like it lol

I've always wondered why are most of your posts edited?

[richardt]

Leonard was bigger, faster, stronger, threw blizzards of punches at times and fought higher level ATG's than the guys Floyd fought and in an era that was inarguably the best in Boxing history.

[doom_specialist]

So when is Tyson's prime to you in his career?

Mind you every athlete has that. Tyson does too. Don't take everything literal. It's when he was at his best is the clue.

"At your best" does not mean in your prime. Those aren't interchangeable terms. I take things literally because using words like "prime" and "focused" when referring to athletes actually means something.

Mike Tyson was physically prime until at least 1996, and I'd say his "best years" span from '88 to '96. Before Holyfield, and barring the Douglas hiccup, he effortlessly destroyed everyone else. He was mentally finished after Holyfield took him apart.

[Spoon23]

"At your best" does not mean in your prime. Those aren't interchangeable terms. I take things literally because using words like "prime" and "focused" when referring to athletes actually means something.

and that is why..you know nothing John Snow..

[Spoon23]

Mike Tyson was physically prime until at least 1996, and I'd say his "best years" span from '88 to '96. Before Holyfield, and barring the Douglas hiccup, he effortlessly destroyed everyone else. He was mentally finished after Holyfield took him apart.

His best years, the favored prime years was before Douglas feb 11, 1990.

Ask boxing fans his prime years. They will say that.

# don't take everything literal

[doom_specialist]

and that is why..you know nothing John Snow..

Because Carlos Baldomir didn't have the best fighting years of his life until he was in his mid 30's. He must've been in his prime lol