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Originally posted by gamesworn View PostNow tell me why Bradley was not considered as number 2 in the division. Thurman, Porter and Kell needs to fight each other to prove themselves. At least Bradley prove it by handling himself well against the best of the last generation.
He was 2-1-1 going into the fight, he got dropped by Vargas , looked like **** against Chavez and got a draw, got dominated by Pacquaio and almost killed against Ruslan. He has one impressive win at the weight and that's Marquez.
That ain't the universal #2 when there's other title holders in the division who are in the mix.
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Originally posted by gamesworn View PostNow tell me why Bradley was not considered as number 2 in the division. Thurman, Porter and Kell needs to fight each other to prove themselves. At least Bradley prove it by handling himself well against the best of the last generation.
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View PostNo he isn't more proven, JMM's only WW win was against Pacquiao who people also claim isn't really a WW. Bradley WW record has no wins against top WW on it.
I will stop arguing you with because you are one of the unreasonable Floyd fans here. It will save me some time
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Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View PostMayweather didn't lose and would have been #1 until he did if he didn't decide to take some time off. Also Pacquiao would have probably never have got the DLH fight which launched him as a superstar. Pacquiao benefited from Mayweather stepping out of the limelight.
Then again, with the relationship he had with GBP at the time, he probably would be lol
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Originally posted by b00g13man View PostAka they are not the same.
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostI doubt Mayweather would have contd being p4p no. 1 with wins over the likes of Guerrero and Ortiz while Pacquiao was beating Cotto, Bradley, Marquez and Marg.
Then again, with the relationship he had with GBP at the time, he probably would be lol
Mayweather beat the guy who beat Margarito. Mayweather beat Marquez at the same weight Pacquiao did and dominated. Mayweather beat Cotto.
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Originally posted by 1hourRun View PostOn principle they are coherent thats why we refer to it when determining/researching as a point of reference ; the recent reformation to the criteria adds perspective as too who hold a more valid claim to being the man. I'm not going argue thats its 100 percent identical but we get the point.
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Originally posted by b00g13man View PostNot sure what you're arguing about. If they aren't always the same thing, then they're not the same thing.Last edited by 1hourRun; 05-26-2016, 06:41 AM.
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostBecause just because he has the next best resume at WW doesn't necessarily mean he's the next highest ranked nor does it make him the undisputied universal #2 in the divison.
He was 2-1-1 going into the fight, he got dropped by Vargas , looked like **** against Chavez and got a draw, got dominated by Pacquaio and almost killed against Ruslan. He has one impressive win at the weight and that's Marquez.
That ain't the universal #2 when there's other title holders in the division who are in the mix.
Bradley wins over Marquez is a much better win than Brook over Porter. Add Bradleys number of wins in WW like Vargas, Ruslan, Rios. He is much better than Brook before Pac-Brad 3.
Of course getting knock down twice by Pacquiao in their third fight will have huge effect in his WW ranking.Last edited by gamesworn; 05-26-2016, 08:14 AM.
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